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To: nickedknack
IS McCAIN THE MAN WHO SAVED US FROM A HILLARY CLINTON PRESIDENCY?

Oddly enough I think there is a case to be made for the idea that John McCain's finest contribution to America may prove to be his 2008 loss to Barack Obama.
That loss probably saved us from a Hillary Clinton Presidency and laid the groundwork for the Trump presidency.

McCain's support in 2008 among Conservatives was lukewarm and it is only Sarah Palin's presence on the ticket that gave him any chance at all.
But after 4 years of a McCain presidency it's doubtful that even Sarah could have carried him to a second term against a resurgent Hillary.

If McCain had won in 2008 Hillary would have come roaring back in 2012.
Remember - in 2008 (as in 2016) it was understood that she would be the democrat candidate.
But then Barack Obama swooped in out of nowhere and stole the prize right out of her hands.

But Hillary democrats weren't about to let that happen again (as we saw in 2016).
Had Obama gone on to lose to McCain she would have been the 2012 nominee even if her supporters had to Arkancide every other democrat candidate.

On the other hand, on the plus side for Hillary, she would have been 4 years younger and a little more fit than in 2016.
Also she wouldn't have had the history of her miserable failure as Secretary of State, and she wouldn't have been hounded in the months before the election
with her extensive record of criminal activity as Secretary of State and later, as candidate for the democrat nomination,
ie: lost emails, smashed cel-phones, Uranium sales to Russia, election rigging, etc.

And she wouldn't have had to lug 8 years of the democrats miserable failure at Obamunism on her back like a parasitic Crack Monkey.

And it is that miserable 8 years of Obamunism and democrat criminality that fired up conservatives in 2016 and helped carry Donald Trump into the presidency.

But 4 years of a McCain presidency would have had the opposite effect and in a 2012 McCain-Hillary contest she likely would have whipped McCain soundly.


23 posted on 08/26/2018 11:15:47 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Doubtful.

The reverse is more likely. Had Hillary sidelined Obama, she would have beaten McCain in 2008. He only got just over 160 Electoral votes against Obama. He likely would not have done much, if any, better against Hillary.
31 posted on 08/26/2018 11:41:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Vlad The Inhaler; TomGuy
No Democrat could have lost in 2008. The combination of Bush Fatigue + the September market crash would have ensured that.

McCain's only contribution was to make him the designated loser rather than Mitt Romney. If Romney had won (as was expected before New Hampshire) in 2008, the GOP could have actually ran a decent candidate in 2012 instead of playing the stupid "my turn" game.

32 posted on 08/26/2018 11:53:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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