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Instructor tries to quarantine gun owners in back of class
Campus Reform ^ | Frances Floresca

Posted on 08/26/2018 9:00:31 AM PDT by gattaca

A teaching assistant at the University of Utah tried to create a “Second Amendment zone” in a classroom, forcing students who legally carry to stand in a tiny, taped-off area during class.

Upon being alerted to the situation, the university promptly overruled the instructor and assigned them to non-teaching duties for the duration of the semester.

"If you feel that it is somehow at all appropriate to bring a gun to class...you are restricted to spending your time in class in my ‘second amendment zone.’" Tweet This

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“Concealed carry is protected under your second amendment rights! However, because the University of Utah reserves the right to restrict elements of the first amendment on campus to specifically sanctioned ‘free speech zones’ I am reserving the right to restrict elements of the second amendment in my own classroom,” the professor wrote in a “weapons policy” provided to students.

“If you feel that it is somehow at all appropriate to bring a gun to class (hint: it is not—this is absurd, antisocial, and frightening behavior), you are restricted to spending your time in class in my ‘second amendment zone’ a 3x3 taped square on the floor in the very back of the classroom, that will be shared with all other gun carriers,” the policy elaborates. “This zone also does not include a desk, because desks are reserved for students who respect the personal and psychological safety of their classmates and instructor.”

Utah State Representative Karianne Lisonbee shared the document after a student provided her the classroom policy file, remarking in the post that she is “livid” about the situation.

“A University of Utah Professor doesn't understand the Bill of Rights and University policy on free speech - which is disturbing enough,” Lisonbee wrote. “But even more egregious, she is seeking to break state law and deprive students of their rights.”

According to university policy and Utah law, students have the right to carry on campus as long as they have a permit or license to carry a gun.

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A spokesperson for the University of Utah provided Campus Reform with the following statement indicating that the policy has been removed from the syllabus:

“University of Utah officials recently learned that a graduate teaching assistant included a statement in an undergraduate course syllabus that violated both state law and university policy. The statement has been removed from the syllabus and students in the class have been alerted to the error,” the university explained.

“The graduate student instructor has apologized and has received additional training about the university's policies,” the statement added, noting that the student instructor “will not teach this semester and will instead have other assignments.”

“The approval of course syllabuses is handled by individual departments, and syllabuses are expected to comply with all university policies,” the spokesperson concluded.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alreadyposted; banglist; nra; secondamendment; uofutah; utah
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To: gattaca

If they were doing REAL concealed carry (instead if letting people know they were carrying), the teacher would not have known (and nobody else either). You wanna’ “bling” your guns? The liberals will point you out every time. And regardless of the law, they will win out. “Concealed” means HIDDEN.


21 posted on 08/26/2018 10:19:26 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: KC Burke

My wife is a U of U alum.


22 posted on 08/26/2018 10:30:57 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: ameribbean expat

“Don’t let the instructor back on campus until they can recite the US Constitution from memory.”

Better still revoke her visa and send her back to her “home country!”


23 posted on 08/26/2018 10:32:08 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: gattaca

Another Leftist Quack feigning special insight in the classroom while p*sing on the constitution.

There are dozens just like him in every college and university in America.


24 posted on 08/26/2018 10:32:14 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: vette6387

Nothing like a reasoned forceful alumni phone call to worry the Chancellor.


25 posted on 08/26/2018 10:41:12 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Jack Hammer

One of the problems in academe shouts out when you find TA’s teaching classes. Granted, it is an old problem, but if Professors, full, Assistant and Associate only have to teach two classes per semester something is wrong. Of course, they are busy trying to obtain contracts from the government or private sector (of which the universities take a healthy chunk). Higher education is sick. And it ain’t the flu.


26 posted on 08/26/2018 11:33:13 AM PDT by Bookshelf (`)
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Come try and move me. Call yourself an ambulance first since you’ll trip over your ego on the way over and hurt something.


27 posted on 08/26/2018 11:38:36 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: gattaca

If you are carrying concealed properly, no one knows.

Carrying a Glock 26 for 22 years at my four o’clock and not one person has noticed, not even police officers.

Of course, I don’t fool around in places that have metal detectors and I must visit...but otherwise, always armed.

Unless asked by a police officer while being detained, tell everyone no, I don’t even like guns.


28 posted on 08/26/2018 11:48:29 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Destroying the vestiges of the First Civil War is ensuring the Second.)
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To: gattaca

Do the girl who have had abortions also have to sit in a separate bullpen? (treat constitutional “rights” equally)


29 posted on 08/26/2018 12:15:29 PM PDT by shalom aleichem (Fire them all even though the heavens fall. (Fiat justitia ruat cælum))
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To: gattaca

This grad assistant is an example of the classic target for an SSS strategy...


30 posted on 08/26/2018 12:31:23 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Larry Lucido
"The back of the room is often elevated, too."

I am under the impression that the "backs" of classrooms in colleges are reserved for BJ's, taco salads, and fudge-packing...Just like they have been, for many years, in high schools, middle schools, and school buses...

31 posted on 08/26/2018 12:42:05 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: gattaca

“This semester”. The idiot will be back propagandizing young minds in three months..


32 posted on 08/26/2018 12:47:29 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ZULU

Thanks a lot man; as if we don’t already have enough spoiled PROG/LIB/QUEER problem children here.


33 posted on 08/26/2018 3:56:46 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Instead of a handgun bring in a battle axe . The right is to keep & bear arms battle axes q qualify!


34 posted on 08/27/2018 12:17:26 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & Subversion)
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