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To: Albion Wilde; Impy; BillyBoy; LS

Reagan’s signing off on abortion as CA Governor was not a “social Democrat” issue, it was a libertarian one. A lot of Democrats did not approve of that, especially Catholics. This was something you’d have expected of Goldwater, who (along with his wives) unfortunately was a huge booster of abortion and Planned Barrenhood. The argument made was of “personal freedom” (which could be claimed as “Conservative”, although I would not where that issue was concerned) and to eradicate the so-called “back-alley or ‘hanger’ abortions” which was a talking point of radical feminists.


166 posted on 08/28/2018 8:43:35 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; AuH2ORepublican
Comparing Reagan's views on immigration to JFK's views is also laughable. Reagan reluctantly signed a "one time only" amnesty bill because his advisors convinced him it was a compromise solution that would come with new border security provisions that ensured illegal immigration wouldn't be a problem in the future, whereas JFK openly advocated a radical "reform" of immigration laws that would shift the priority to hoards of massive immigration from third world countries and do away with the standard of making immigration from countries with a similar culture and standard of living as own the priority. His brother Teddy got this "reform" passed in 1965 and the results were disastrous and are exactly what lead to Reagan reluctantly signing a "one time amnesty" under false pretenses.

It would be like claiming George W. Bush's willingness to sign an assault weapons ban renewal was on the same level of John Paul Stevens calling for an outright repeal of the 2nd amendment, and concluding "both Bush and Stevens had the same wrong view on guns"

I've noticed not a single JFK worshiper on this board wants to discuss ANY of the numerous examples I gave of Kennedy's various left-wing socialist platform and policies. They just stick with the script and repeat the "fact" that Kennedy was supposedly "patriotic and pro-America" and "believed in a strong defense" and was a "fiscal conservative" (all vague, meaningless terms, unlike the actual Kennedy policies I brought up, like his support for a $3.19 billion federal housing program) ad infinitum.

Ironically, one thing Hostage got right is he noted you could take some random quote from Joseph Stalin out of context and use it to create a false narrative that he was a pro-America conservative, when in reality he was a hardcore socialist and has an endless track record to prove it. Ironically, that's precisely what he and his fellow JFK fanboys have done with their history revisionism about Kennedy.

And now they've changed the topic completely and are trying to sell the idea that Kennedy was killed by "Deep State" because he was on some secret crusade to expose political corruption in Washington DC.

167 posted on 08/28/2018 10:00:09 AM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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