Posted on 08/19/2018 12:48:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
The big problem with NATO isn’t whether we are willing to spill blood to defend Estonia. Because the answer to that is, probably, yes. The question is, is Germany willing to spill blood to defend Estonia. And the answer to that is almost certainly no. Not willing, and not able.
So, that’s the problem Trump faces with NATO.
Gold Star post of the day !
Gold Star post of the day !
Sorry, the Weekly Standard is infamously Never Trumper - owned and operated by Bill Kristol, who, by the way, is up to his neck in the Christopher Steele scandal. He should get himself lawyered up before this is all over.
[Sorry, the Weekly Standard is infamously Never Trumper - owned and operated by Bill Kristol]
Kristol’s objective is that the US keeps its spot as the pre-eminent great nation of our time. Trump is moving the Overton window, of what’s acceptable in polite discourse, by showing that the implementation of his policies doesn’t mean that we turn back into pumpkins after midnight. Once that becomes clear, Kristol will fall into line even on items where he now disagrees with Trump.
The U.S. would be perfectly fine if Germany spent 0% of its GDP on defense ... but not if they're buying energy from the Russians. They have to become a vassal state of the U.S. if they don't want to defend themselves.
Are you not on Twitter where Kristol each and every day attacks Trump in the most disgusting way? Did you not know of his connection to Fusion GPS - and it is far more troublesome than has been reported in the mainstream press? What planet are you on?
[Are you not on Twitter where Kristol each and every day attacks Trump in the most disgusting way? Did you not know of his connection to Fusion GPS - and it is far more troublesome than has been reported in the mainstream press? What planet are you on?]
Amen, brother. Well said.
You ignore Kristol’s (and his son in law’s) role in the whole GPS Fusion filth on Trump. Kristol is no friend of Trump and is nothing more than a Washington insider determined to get rid of an interloper - legally or illegally. You can sneer at Twitter all you like but increasingly it is where you find out what the hell is going on across this country. It has become an invaluable tool. It was used to elect our current president.
To fight Trump is to fight the American voter. It does not matter if Trump is not perfect. He is our guy.
Well said.
Germany will not send soldiers “Into Harms Way.” They can only be “peacekeepers.”Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[They have to become a vassal state of the U.S. if they don’t want to defend themselves.]
People talk about how alliance deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan show that the EU are our vassals. That’s not the way vassalage worked. Historically, vassals sent expeditionary forces in service of the empire, such that wartime operations resulted in damage to those forces far exceeding what was inflicted upon imperial troops. If you add all the fatalities among allied troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, you might come to a quarter of the number of US casualties there. Bottom line is that they are definitely not our vassal states.
So they would be like the german police who watch roving muzzie gangs molest and rape women on their watch ? Something they seem to be good at, watching and doing nothing.
Kristol is a dyed in the wool antiTrumper. To believe anything else is to be uneducated to the extreme. Kristol is in the pocket of the RINOs.
The long and short of it is this:
We gave sweetheart deals to the Europeans and others right after World War II when they were on their knees, we produced a staggering 45% of the entire world’s GDP (not even the Roman Empire at its height was this powerful), and we were facing the existential threat of the Soviet backed spread of Communism. We wanted to have allies capable of at least putting up a fight if another world war was coming. It made sense for us to prop them up.
The world is a very different place today. Those other countries have long since recovered. The Soviet Union exists no more. So why the hell should we continue into perpetuity the sweetheart deals we gave them?
There’s no reason for it and the American people know it. Its long past time we went back to acting like a normal country by standing up for its own self interests vigorously just like everybody else does instead of acting like Santa Claus. Naturally, others want to see Uncle Sugar keep doling out the goodies they’ve become accustomed to and won’t like being told things have changed. If it takes playing hardball with them to make them realize they need to come to the table and negotiate balanced deals with us, so be it.
Its true that the US did not want the Red Army rolling all the way to the English Channel. All of Europe’s population and resources would have significantly bolstered the resources at the Commies’ command just as it significantly bolstered the Nazis’ strength.
Now that the Commies are no more however, there is nothing in it for America to keep troops in Germany. Somebody above questioned whether Germany would defend Estonia. Hell, I don’t think Germany would defend Germany much less Estonia - and yes I’ve lived in Germany a couple times so I’m pretty familiar with their attitudes on most things.
There is no existential threat to America today that justifies the outlay of large amounts of American cash to defend Europe. Withdraw from Nato and bring the boys home.
True, because as time passes, it becomes more and more clear that the globalist one worlders are only interested in One World Government.
Papa Bush was sold on it. So were many people in Washington and beyond.
The yearly planning meetings for a North American Union weren’t empty exercises. That’s what they wanted, and that was only a stepping stone to an American Union including all nations from Canada to the tip of Peru.
This grand scheme would have en EU like leadership completely neutering our self-governance.
American is exceptional, despite what Leftists and Globalists think.
We will fight for our sovereignty and win.
Screw the deep state and other swamp dwellers where ever they may be.
I would. Poland and Hungary have the same value system as most Americans do.
The rest of the word act like adolescents with Trump the Daddy of the world.
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