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12 ex-intel officials slam Trump for 'ill-considered and unprecedented' action against Brennan
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| 08/17/18
| Lukas Mikelionis
Posted on 08/17/2018 8:08:52 PM PDT by kevao
Twelve former senior intelligence officials issued a statement late Thursday criticizing President Trumps ill-considered and unprecedented decision to strip former CIA Director John Brennans security clearance.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 12angrymen; avrilhaines; davidcohen; davidpetraeus; georgetenet; jamesclapper; johnbrennan; johnmclaughlin; leonpanetta; michaelhayden; michaelmorell; portergoss; robertgates; stephenkappes; susanrice; williamwebster
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To: pepsionice
"Just a curious question....how many Senators and former Senators are also holding Top Secret clearance business?"
And Johnny McClame lying their in a vegetative state, or dead. Been MIA since last December. Who knows what top secrets have been sucked from his dying brain.
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:39:50 PM PDT
by
mass55th
(Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
To: Envisioning
Good point. And if we need more, I think someone once called that “shovel ready jobs.”
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:41:28 PM PDT
by
kevao
(Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
To: originalbuckeye
My first clearance was cancelled when I was Honorably Discharged from the Corps.
My second one was cancelled when I quit working for JPL.
Rightfully so; I no longer had NEED to access any classified, secret, or top secret information.
The EXCUSE that they might need to be called back for any “institutional knowledge or information” that they had (it’s all carried in your head) is pure bull pucky, any one can be called back and asked questions about past practices, policies, actions, or procedures without having a clearance.
The people who are asking the questions just don’t go into current operations!
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:43:34 PM PDT
by
5th MEB
(Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
To: mass55th
If you go and read the fine-print of the TS clearance, everytime you come across and get into any talks/discussion of depth with ‘foreigners’, it’s supposed to be reported to the security monitor. Are these guys actually doing that? If not, that’s a federal crime.
All these little overseas trips of McCain over the past decade? If he does hold a clearance, I’ll guarantee you that he never reported contacts.
To: kevao
The skeet just keep launching into the air all by themselves.
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:47:52 PM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Caveat Emptor)
To: 5th MEB
Rightfully so; I no longer had NEED to access any classified, secret, or top secret information.But you were stripped of your First-Amendment rights, or so I hear from Brennan, as he tweets on Twitter and pontificates on MSNBC.
For a guy who has no freedom of speech, I have to hear way to much from him!
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:55:35 PM PDT
by
kevao
(Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
To: pepsionice
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:57:19 PM PDT
by
mass55th
(Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
To: kevao; LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; madison10; K-BAR; TADSLOS; calico_thompson; Mark17; ...
Check out these two links both by Jeff Carlson, who is pretty amazing for the analysis:
A Quiet Hero-NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers Retires
The Uncovering Mike Rogers Investigation, Section 702 FISA Abuse & the FBI
- November 2015-April 2016 The FBI and DOJs National Security Division (NSD) uses private contractors to access raw FISA information using To and From FISA-702(16) & About FISA-702(17) queries.
- March 2016 NSA Director Rogers becomes aware of improper access to raw FISA data.
- April 2016 Rogers orders the NSA compliance officer to run a full audit on 702 NSA compliance.
- April 18 2016 Rogers shuts down FBI/NSD contractor access to the FISA Search System.
- April-September 2016 Rogers continues his investigation.
- September 26 2016 DOJs NSD Head John Carlin files the Governments proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications. The filing does not disclose the FISA Abuses. Carlin is aware of Rogers compliance review. The 2016 certifications are scheduled for Court approval on October 26, 2016.
- September 27 2016 Carlin announces he is resigning. Mary McCord will later assume his position.
- October 15, 2016 Carlin formally leaves the NSD.
- Mid-October 2016 DNI Clapper submits a recommendation to the White House that Director Rogers be removed from the NSA. Clappers effort fails.
- October 20 2016 Rogers is briefed by the NSA compliance officer on the Section 702 NSA compliance audit and About query violations.
- October 21 2016 Rogers shuts down all About Query activity. Rogers reports the activity to DOJ and prepares to go before the FISA Court.
- October 21 2016 DOJ & FBI seek and receive a Title I FISA probable cause order authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page from the FISC. At this point, the FISA Court is unaware of the Section 702 violations.
- October 24 2016 Rogers verbally informs the FISA Court of Section 702(17) violations.
- October 26 2016 Rogers formally informs the FISA Court of 702(17) violations in writing.
- October 26, 2016 The FISA Court refuses to formalize the 2016 Section 702 certifications. A complete overhaul of Section 702 processes ensues.
- November 17 2016 (morning) Rogers travels to meet President-Elect Trump and his Transition Team in Trump Tower. Rogers does not inform DNI James Clapper.
- November 17 2016 (evening) Trump Transition Team announces they are moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey.
The DOJ & FBI were fully aware that Rogers initiated a compliance review in April 2016. They were aware of the reviews relative status.
The DOJ & FBI were both aware of Carlins fraudulent September 26, 2016 submission of the Governments proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications. They knew it contained material omissions.
The FBI and DOJs NSD were quite literally racing against Rogers Investigation in order to obtain a FISA Warrant on Carter Page.
Carlin specifically didnt disclose his knowledge of FISA Abuse in the annual Section 702 certifications so as not to raise suspicions at the FISA Court pre-FISA Warrant.
The DOJ & FBI apply for and receive a Title I FISA warrant on Carter Page the same day Rogers apprises both Agencies of ongoing FISA violations.
Neither the DOJ or FBI inform the FISA Court of Rogers notification when they make their FISA Application on Page.
None of this would have been uncovered without the actions of Admiral Mike Rogers.
The reason I post this is that many people on this thread have made mention of the fact that for a lot of people, a security clearance is a real asset...a moneymaker. That is why many of these people are up in arms, this "perk" could be taken away.
Look at the timeline above, and you can see, smack dab in the middle of the greatest scandal this country have ever seen, there are "private contractors" up to their elbows in the NSA database, particularly the abuses of FISA data.
Equally telling is James Clapper's response when he finds out what Admiral Rogers is up to. He recommends that Admiral Rogers be fired.
Admiral Rogers may be one of the most important, yet unknown heroes of this effort that is going to collapse this leftist house of cards. God Bless that man.
And God Bless Donald Trump.
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posted on
08/17/2018 8:59:23 PM PDT
by
rlmorel
(Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
To: pepsionice
Well said...and all of them who have been discovered along the way abusing this privilege have essentially put on their “mole pajamas” and are crying because they know the sword is coming for them
And that right soon
Next!
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:04:08 PM PDT
by
100American
(Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
To: kevao
To: kevao
exactly ... add them to the revocation list too!
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:08:31 PM PDT
by
catnipman
((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
To: rlmorel
Thanks for that timeline.
Time to buy stock in rope making companies!
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:15:12 PM PDT
by
VanShuyten
("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
To: kevao
And twelve more members of the swamp, volunteering for duty...
...to trash Trump for doing what was called for.
These swamp folks are sure helping us identify them.
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:15:36 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
To: kevao
Twelve more security clearances that should be stripped....
Immediately.
The Deep State operatives are self-identifying for US.
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:19:22 PM PDT
by
Lurkinanloomin
(Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
To: DoughtyOne
These swamp folks are sure helping us identify them.It's a most unique quality of President Trump. His enemies become moths to a flame. Zap!
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:20:07 PM PDT
by
kevao
(Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
To: kevao
The guy seems to reel them in. They to a man think they are the one to bring him down. Fools...
I agree with your moth take too.
If he were to have done nothing more, his ability to clearly lay out who they are vs loyal citizens was magnificent.
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:24:34 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
To: kevao
This is getting to be a three ring circus. Men and women fought and died to defend this nation. Both of my parents were WWII veterans. We are a country gone mad. We need to repent and ask the Lord to put us back together again . . .HIS WAY.
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:35:08 PM PDT
by
Maudeen
(http://ThereIsHopeinJesus.com/)
To: kevao
I sped through this rather quickly...do we know
who THE TWELVE ARE?
I would like to know so I could see just how deep this damn Deep State is and who inhabits it.
And yes, they should have clearances revoked, but
WHO THE HECK ARE THEY?
To: 5th MEB
All true.
And it applies to the moles now outing themselves on this forum.
Semper Fidelis, 3d Bn 4th Marines S2 shop
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:41:42 PM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Caveat Emptor)
To: kevao
Why does anyone retain a security clearance after it is needed?
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posted on
08/17/2018 9:43:20 PM PDT
by
Sequoyah101
(It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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