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Of Course There Is Such a Thing as a ‘Perjury Trap’
National Review ^ | August 11, 2018 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 08/11/2018 9:07:02 AM PDT by yoe

Studies will someday be done on the deleterious effect Donald Trump has had on the brains of people who loathe him. It drives them to say things that are as palpably foolish as some of the president’s own doozies. This week’s winner: There is no such thing as a “perjury trap.”

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To: apillar

George Carlin said it best about Martha Stewart ..
“Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she’s behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook, clean, and work in the yard, and haul her a** off to jail.”


21 posted on 08/11/2018 10:19:14 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: yoe; All

The FBI has policies against their own agents being recorded.

If you wish to avoid an FBI interview, merely tell them it will be recorded. They will refuse to conduct the interview.

I had it happen to me. I had some information that I wished to give the FBI shortly after 9/11. I said I wanted to record the interview. They told me if I insisted on recording, there would be no interview.


22 posted on 08/11/2018 10:20:40 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Lets hope so on all counts. Mueller and company and the Justice Dept and FBI have to be terrified that it will all be made public if there is information that implicates them.

If shenanigans did indeed happen, we need to know about it. The future of this country depends on it. And, no “what you don't know wont hurt you” doesn't apply here. An open government is a must when the resources of that same government are illegally used against a citizen.

Crossing my fingers.

23 posted on 08/11/2018 10:22:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: yoe

Trump will walk into the Trap. His Hubris will be his downfall.


24 posted on 08/11/2018 10:22:54 AM PDT by heights
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To: P.O.E.
That's exactly right, P.O.E. I do worry whether Mr. Donald J. Trump fully realizes the peril of the Martha Stewart trap, in which a politically motivated prosecutor simply makes up imaginary crimes that then act as a gigantic tar baby in the courts and in the arena of public opinion. The President's current attorney, Rudolph Giuliani, does seem to be on the ball about this matter, so I'm optimistic that this particular witch-hunt tactic will fall flat on its face in a stinking puddle of corruption.

If Trump says "uh" the first time then says "um" the second, they'll proclaim "Trump changes his testimony".

25 posted on 08/11/2018 10:23:10 AM PDT by Sarcasm Factory
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To: Alberta's Child
Martha Stewart wouldn't have spent two second in prison if she had simply kept her mouth shut.

Not necessarily true. They wanted to imprison her and they would have just found something else. They NEEDED her to get the blame for 'insider trading' to keep the public's attention away from the fact that THEY were doing ILLEGAL INSIDER TRADING. After they convicted her, they changed the laws so that politicians can do INSIDER TRADING LEGALLY. Not you, not anyone else, but THEY CAN.

26 posted on 08/11/2018 10:23:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: yoe

The Fifth Amendment states: “nor shall any person…be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.”

Seems to me the first step into a perjury trap is taking an oath that what one has stated or will state is true. A case against someone for perjury will use the fact of taking such an oath against them, which seems to me, turns that someone into a witness against himself.

What happens if someone refuses to take an oath to “tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” on the grounds that doing so could be used in a criminal case against him, resulting in him “to be a witness against himself”, even if he’s telling the truth so far as he knows?

I believe under some circumstances one can be held in contempt for not taking such an oath but that seems like compelling one to be a witness against oneself if a charge of perjury is brought.


27 posted on 08/11/2018 10:31:52 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: marktwain

so you wanted the FBI the interview you? Was there some reason you couldn’t give them a written statement?


28 posted on 08/11/2018 11:11:16 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: P.O.E.

“..as well as the president’s own doozies.”

This asshat is of course foremost an anti trumper. All of his articles contain at least one Trump slam, like the one above. He’s basically a pompous jerk who really shows no support for Trump. However, hid disdain seems more for Mueller so we accept him. I’m not holding my breath when it comes to supporters by our president.


29 posted on 08/11/2018 11:13:46 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: yoe

Well, he is in their heads like a parasite eating away at what little logic they ever had.


30 posted on 08/11/2018 11:20:24 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: yoe

The real trap is that even though the President would tell the whole truth, they would find somebody or somebodies to say no that is not true. Of course Mueller would believe these “witnesses” and prosecute. And it is a guilty until proven innocent situation. Also the interview is not recorded. Mueller could state that the President said XYZ when the President said ABC.


31 posted on 08/11/2018 11:22:50 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Ann Archy

Thanks for the correction.


32 posted on 08/11/2018 11:44:10 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: yoe

Seems to me there is only one to prove this, Bring in 10 High pollutant Journolists, Put them under Oath and have 3 investigators from the FBI question them separately.

I would bet my Last Nickel EVERY ONE would be Charged with Perjury.


33 posted on 08/11/2018 12:22:15 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: yoe
NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE, EVER!

To quote Admiral Akbar: "It's a trap!"

34 posted on 08/11/2018 1:30:41 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: cuban leaf

BINGO! Everyone on FRIDAY should watch this video, INCLUDING the next from a former LEO WHO GOES ON TO CONFIRM EVERYTHING THE PROFESSOR OF LAW SAYS: See post # 34 to view the one thing they both affirm.


35 posted on 08/11/2018 1:34:40 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

You are right. Both halves are excellent. I really love the way your words can be used against you in ways you never imagined, even if you are 100% innocent.

Look ad Flynn. What if he had refused to testify to those guys and just referred them to his lawyer? You can’t use a guys words against him unless you have his words.


36 posted on 08/11/2018 1:41:03 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: P.O.E.

If Trump says “uh” the first time then says “um” the second, they’ll proclaim “Trump changes his testimony”

Just need to explain what sworn testimony is to Mueller. Tell him to picture it as he pictures the Constitution, fluid and dynamic. Changing along with the need for change.


37 posted on 08/11/2018 2:50:32 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: cuban leaf
That about sums it up; Flynn would be totally free and clear.

This is the reason why the first thing out of a cop's mouth after a traffic stop is: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

He's intentionally and deceptively seeking to prompt you into willingly incriminating yourself by admitting or confessing to a "crime": "I was going over the speed limit; I was going too fast; I accidentally ran a red light; I missed seeing the stop sign"; etc.

By simply answering his seemingly innocuous question he has intentionally tricked you into incriminating yourself and confessing to a "crime". Because by answering you have incriminated yourself by your own admission and "confession of guilt". Because:

"ANYTHING Y O U SAY C A N AND W I L L BE USED A G A I N S T Y O U IN A COURT OF LAW".

Of course the policeman NEVER TELLS YOU THIS B E F O R E HE ASKS YOU THE QUESTION "do YOU know WHY I pulled YOU over?"

*The correct and only answer you should ever give to the above question to avoid self incriminating is:

"I honestly have no idea officer; I guess YOU WILL HAVE TO TELL ME."

*Say absolutely nothing more than this to his question, period, full stop.

Therefore the accusation of a "crime" is his, not yours and there is nothing in your statement to the police officer that he can use to incriminate you with in court.

And whatever you do, don't try to apologize, plead innocence, make excuses or "plea for mercy"; unless you have a genuine emergency: wife's having a baby, serious medical issue needing immediate attention etc... Because in his mind he has already convicted you of a perceived "crime".

Be professional, and courteous, keep both hands on the wheel and comply with his request to see your license and registration, that's it.

38 posted on 08/12/2018 12:54:13 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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