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To: wardaddy
In my opinion, it is totally inappropriate for a newcomer into America to accept the benefits of being here, and then trash the descendants of the Founders; totally inappropriate. That does not mean he can not have opinions on various subjects; but it really is not debatable that the ongoing purpose of our Constitutional Federation was the common defense & enduring liberty of the Founders' posterity.

Now three of my four grandparents were immigrants, as were the grandparents of the one who was not. I have always considered it a solemn moral duty to uphold the intent of the founders of the political society into which we were accepted.

You and I agree on almost everything, but I do not think Dinesh has any really legitimate beef against England. It is not necessarily a legitimate beef, if a much smaller nation, with a fraction of your population, located almost halfway around the world, is able to control you for two centuries. It might make an interesting subject for debate, if we did not have more immediate concerns, today, whether India was more a victim or a beneficiary of the era when Britannia ruled the waves.

(Anyway, the influence of British personality types & ancient values on our value system--as reflected in the Constitution--cannot be denied. That is relevant to the subject.)

107 posted on 08/13/2018 8:15:55 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan; Pelham

I’ve found in my early life late 70s to early 90s that anywhere in the world where the British colonized is better off than anyone else by and large and especially when compared to other colonizers.

Irish Catholic freepers of course bristle.

I’m Irish too.....the other kind lol

The six counties where abortion is almost non existent btw

Only 15 allowed last year for life of mother

Isn’t that weird that Ulster still forbids abortion yet The Republic of doesn’t

The British and Dutch seemed most benevolent

French if they hadn’t lost Saint Domingue would be top tier too

Spanish and Portuguese much more harsh

If pressed Dinesh has conceded pretty much the same thing in interviews despite his early writings lamenting the discrimination his father experienced

I think as a NeoCon he kind of goes with what he thinks makes him popular

Believe it or not long ago he defended southern slaveowners as treating slaves better than the Brits and Brahmins did lower caste servants in India

Now he’s part of this NRO position that Democrats were always bad and GOP always good and context and historicaL perspective is irrelevant which is stupid to me

It’s a short path from Jackson bashing to doing the same to Jefferson and Washington and Madison etc

I’ve seen Jefferson disparaged here by this ilk

I’m glad we were founded by the Brits more than anyone else even though where I grew up it was Spanish French Spanish English American Confederate and American with Indians thrown in...Choctaw type not Tandoori


108 posted on 08/13/2018 8:32:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: Ohioan
In my opinion, it is totally inappropriate for a newcomer into America to accept the benefits of being here, and then trash the descendants of the Founders; totally inappropriate. That does not mean he can not have opinions on various subjects; but it really is not debatable that the ongoing purpose of our Constitutional Federation was the common defense & enduring liberty of the Founders' posterity.

I always thought Nikki Haley should have punted on the Flag Controversy. It was unseemly for her as a first generation immigrant to speak on this subject while having no stake in that history.

If the descendants of the South Carolinians who fought in that war have decided to put that symbol behind them, that is one thing, but for someone who was not part of that history to toss it aside, was arrogantly presumptuous in my opinion.

I really wanted to see if the Voters were going to do anything about this, but She left before she would have to stand for their judgement.

130 posted on 08/14/2018 10:51:19 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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