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China yields to US oil market power
The American Thinker ^ | 08/10/18 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 08/10/2018 6:14:32 AM PDT by pgkdan

If the US is about to engage in a trade war with China, the Middle Kingdom has just signaled that it wants that conflict to be a limited war by exempting a major US export to China, crude oil. The Wall Street Journal reported:

As China made good on its threat to impose 25% tariffs on $16 billion worth of U.S. imports, one big-ticket item originally on its hit list was conspicuously missing: crude oil.

Oil had been one of a slate of targets China listed in June for tariffs to counter those the Trump administration threatened on Chinese imports. The gambit jeopardized a budding relationship: Over the past two years China has become the biggest buyer of U.S. crude-oil exports, last year taking a fifth of the total.

But oil was off Wednesday’s final list.

The reason is quite simple: China desperately needs to import oil, and the US is the fastest-growing source of crude oil exports on world markets, including

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Oil (and soybeans and other big US commodity exports) is traded on global markets, which means that a Chinese tariff on US commodities doesn’t destroy the market, it merely shifts supply or demand to other countries:

“The U.S.’s light crudes aren’t going to go away,” said Erik Norland, senior economist at CME Group. “If it’s not exported to China, it will be exported someplace else, and those could be other countries in this region or other parts of the world.”

The same is true for soybeans. If China buys Brazilian soybeans instead of US exports, the markets that Brazil formerly exported to will have to switch to US suppliers. Instead of the predictions of disaster for US farmers, the market price for soybeans in China is now rising, as Reuters notes:

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Gee, do you think it’s possible that President Trump knows more about negotiating than the nervous nellies that scream about trade wars damaging America?

Quite possible!

1 posted on 08/10/2018 6:14:32 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: pgkdan

btt


2 posted on 08/10/2018 6:22:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: pgkdan

NOBODY knows how to negotiate like the Prez.


3 posted on 08/10/2018 6:23:23 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: pgkdan

What many don’t get, it’s not about tariff’s, it’s not cash or trade surplus, the reason DJT is being a Hard Ass is because it’s about IP, all about IP.


4 posted on 08/10/2018 6:23:53 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

The Chinese have built their properity around stolen Intellectual Property. (IP)


5 posted on 08/10/2018 6:30:23 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: pgkdan

China is about at the end of what they can put tariffs on, without hampering their own abilities.

The USA has the majority of Chinese imports still to go.

China could raise the percentage of the tariffs, but so can the USA.

China badly needs a good percentage of what it imports from the USA (like technology components), whereas the USA really needs very little of what it imports from China.


6 posted on 08/10/2018 6:43:05 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: pgkdan
Oil (and soybeans and other big US commodity exports) is traded on global markets, which means that a Chinese tariff on US commodities doesn’t destroy the market, it merely shifts supply or demand to other countries

Pretty much. It’s silly to impose tariffs on US oil. It makes very little difference to American oil sales.

7 posted on 08/10/2018 6:49:49 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: lonevoice

WINNING! It looks like Trump was right again. MAGA!


8 posted on 08/10/2018 6:53:24 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Blue Collar Christian

He’ll put a boot in their ass.
It’s the American way...


9 posted on 08/10/2018 7:00:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: pgkdan
Gee, do you think it’s possible that President Trump knows more about negotiating than the nervous nellies that scream about trade wars damaging America? Quite possible!

Not only that, Trump's business experts on his team know more about actual world trade than the Chinese.

10 posted on 08/10/2018 7:04:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SmokingJoe; pgkdan

Substitutes are more available to the USA.

Beyond the commodity products like oil and food, the stuff that is left by China without new tariffs, are mostly things they can not easily substitute. Things like the chips that go into products they export.

If they drive up the price for essential components of their products through tariffs, they would drive more manufacturers out of their country.

Beyond what they import, there is basically no substitute market for them to sell what they now export to the USA. If the US substitutes another source for those products, China will have to reduce capacity/lay off workers/ adjust to lower tax revenues.

So the slack has been taken up, as far as tit-for-tat tariffs go. Much beyond here, it is increasingly a one way ratchet of pressure on China.


11 posted on 08/10/2018 7:04:26 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

If we fight, I’m going to win.
Be we don’t have to fight, and we both can win.


12 posted on 08/10/2018 7:26:34 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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