Posted on 08/07/2018 6:47:28 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
The judge in Paul Manaforts trial suggested to a prosecutor for special counsel Robert Mueller that he is so frustrated that there were tears in his eyes.
Bloomberg reported that U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III made the comment to prosecutor Greg Andres during a discussion out of earshot of the jury and members of the media.
I understand how frustrated you are, Ellis said. In fact, theres tears in your eyes right now.
Andres disputed Elliss statement, to which the judge replied, Well, theyre watery.
Tensions have broken out between the prosecutors and Ellis throughout the trial: The judge has asked members of both sides to refrain from making facial expressions during the course of the trial.
He has also criticized Muellers team for presenting too much evidence on Manaforts spending, arguing that its not a crime.
Bloomberg reported that Ellis and Andres had other tense private conversations during the trial on Monday, during which former Manafort associate Rick Gates testified that he and Manafort committed crimes.
Andres claimed that Ellis was preventing him from asking essential questions for the trial. Ellis disputed that he was prioritizing speed over the prosecutors arguments.
The pair have had other confrontations during the trial, according to Bloomberg.
Look at me when youre talking to me, Ellis said to Andres at one point.
Im sorry, judge, I was, the prosecutor replied.
No, you werent, Ellis said. You were looking down.
Because I dont want to get in trouble for some facial expression, Andres said. I dont want to get yelled at again by the court for having some facial expression when Im not doing anything wrong, but trying my case.
doesnt that imply guilt and collusion on .gov side ??
Actually, there is scant detail about the trial especially that tiny detail of the alleged crimes occurring years before Manafort was part of the Trump campaign, but plenty of coverage. It always includes identifying the trial as from Special Counsel Mueller against former Trump campaign chairman Manafort, and is heard top and the bottom of almost every hour on ABC radio news so that people make the connection that isn't there between this trial and Mueller's witch hunt of the President.
“”Prepare for the other one coming up with the Russians getting the lame-Mueller effort, and them walking out of the court as well.””
What makes you think any Russians are going to show up for trial? So far, they haven’t...only a couple of attorneys for the original companies indicted...which came as a BIG surprise to Mueller’s cronies and from all I’ve read, that’s it!
It seems like we have not seen any reporting of objections made by the attorneys. The judge seems to be making all the objections. Weird trial!
I don’t agree. A judge can call BS very early in a case if he thinks that there has been prosecutorial misconduct.
Mueller is using evidence gathered from the Title-1 FISA warrant that applied to Carter Page and spying on Trump. He did this because he does not need to show probably cause with the Title-1 warrant (as opposed to a Title-3 warrant)
Mueller is also using evidence gathered from an earlier investigation before he was appointed special counsel, which means that evidence is outside the scope of the special counsel mandate...which is why Mueller went running to Rosenstein to sign off on a statement stating that the warrant was retroactive.
Ellis is pissed, and he’s showing it in court. I wouldn’t be surprised if he dismisses the whole case because of it.
Mueller also has the Flynn case before another judge (Emmett Sullivan) who seems to be sensing prosecutorial misconduct in how a guilty plea was extracted from General Flynn. The plea was made before a judge who approved the FISA warrant at Peter Strzok’s request, and who was later forced to recuse himself from the case. Sullivan has reprimanded Mueller prosecutors much the same way Ellis is reprimanding them.
That is exactly correct! Hes no Jeff Sessions.
Exactly right. The problem for Manafort is, there’s nothing “minor” on the list of charges he faces.
My take is that the judge knows this ‘trial’ is deeply un-American and is ashamed to be a part of it and is ashamed for this proceeding to be a part of the US justice system.
Manafort was selected for scrutiny because of his service to Donald Trump as campaign manager, and then his life was scoured for evidence of any crime for which he could be imprisoned.
All in hopes to convince him in turn to offer evidence of crime against the person Americans voted into office as president, and to whom the corrupt Deep State is unwilling to surrender power as required by our Constitution.
All of the power of the US government has been brought to bear on Manafort.
They even monitored his communications while he was preparing for trial and imprisoned him on the slimmest of pretexts for contacting and allegedly trying to influence a potential witness.
Meanwhile, the US government much more than influencing potential witnesses, can legally threaten Manafort’s business partner with a lengthy prison sentence if he doesn’t sing from the US government’s songbook.
And of course the real reason the US government was monitoring Manafort’s communications was in hopes of some communication with Trump that could be presented as an offer of pardon for silence and used to remove Trump from office.
The jury will likely convict Manafort, and Manafort may well have filed one or more false income tax returns.
But that doesn’t make this any less a political trial which is part of an effort to overturn a presidential election disagreeable to the Deep State.
An appeal is automatic either way. Count on it.
When metrosexuals interact with a man.
Ellis is a difficult judge to work with, and I can easily picture whats going on in that courtroom. I tried my first case in Federal Court before him in the 80s, and have appeared before him many times since. Hes always had his own mind about how cases should be tried, and he picked up some of his traits from Bryant and Lewis, senior judges long since retired who molded the peculiar character of EDVA Alexandria. In the past ten years or so he has gotten much more abrupt with counsel whenever something displeases him. All that said, he is an extraordinarily sharp judge and one I am happy to draw for a complicated case.
“There has to be a pathological streak of some kind within them.”
Yeah, they are all certified leftopaths.
A lot of tax crimes are technically criminal offenses, but if you “self-correct” before they go after you, they will never pursue charges.
Manafort’s biggest mistake was letting them catch him before he filed the right paperwork and payed his fees, I think.
Judge should throw this out and throw the prosecutors out on their rears.
Well. God help Manafort, even though he has been a rich worldly man. That sounds like one of the nastier lurking bombs in the tax code, though any accountant worth the name will know about the need. I guess the bomb could trigger on a rich man who insists on doing it all himself. Frankly I would ask about due process if challenging the criminal aspect in the USSC. “Having a lot of money and not knowing quite what to do with it” oughtn’t to be a crime.
It has to do do with the long filthy tentacles of the government. IRS wants to know where YOUR money is overseas so they can have a crack at it somehow some way. The FBAR/FINCEN report is kind of a gotcha for the unwary or unscrupulous. Manafort may or may not be a scumbag/tax cheat but the IRS is the biggest criminal of all IMHO.
“Mueller, the traitor and torturer, will declare victory.
They will have forever tainted the election with a massive lie.”
All totally the fault of....Jeff Sessions. None of this preposterous Russian hoax would have plagued us and Trump but for that useless drip recusing himself.
The Left is bereft of ideology at this point. So all that's left is ad hominem attacks. Fortunately, Trump's base is energized by these attacks.
My perspective on the Mueller prosecutions is simple: the Left is sending a chilling message to anyone who plans to work for Trump, abandon hope all ye who enter here. It's as though Mueller et. al., received their training under Putin's KGB, ironically.
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