YET!
Posted on 07/31/2018 3:00:59 PM PDT by Drango
No SNAP to folks living in Public Taxpayer supplied housing.
Place a restaurant in every building, with rotating KP for ALL the able residents.
Smoking is one of the indicators of low class and mental illness. There are many exceptions, but the correlation is pretty good.
When you choose to smoke, you choose to be associated with smokers.
Indeed, there is a strong negative correlation with smoking to both low income and low education.
If you can afford to smoke, TAXPAYERS shouldn’t be forced to subsidize you housing.
“Can’t smoke in government building either. Public housing is considered government buildings. I wonder if this applies to Section 8 housing as well.”
There is a difference. I beleive the “government buildings” you are reffering to are government offices, essentially, and that is a different matter than someone’s residence, whether or not the landlord is the government.
The ban covers individual’s residences, not offices. THAT is, to me, inappropriate, and I think the courts should find it as an example of government overreach. The “common” and “public” areas of government housing, yes, but the inidividual residences, no.
This is going to get a lot of people mad at the government.
Military bases which include housing have smoking areas, usually a gazebo out away from offices and housing. Nothing inside, not even on ships. The military didn’t make this up. It came down from on high. Welfare housing was special I guess. Perhaps, no longer.
I call it good stewardship, as it keeps the housing in good shape and the taxpayer funded health care is less burdened with smoking related diseases.
Good luck with that
“...how could you determine
who the lawbreakers are?”
Health and welfare inspections? Recipient’s are literally prisoner’s of the system.
“Military bases which include housing have smoking areas, usually a gazebo out away from offices and housing. Nothing inside, not even on ships. The military didn’t make this up. It came down from on high. Welfare housing was special I guess. Perhaps, no longer.”
Civilians are not military, nor suppose to live in a command and control structure.
Personally I am not for public housing. But it exists and since it does I don’t want it managed by fascistic policies.
As I said, smoking is not illegal, and housing is someone’s personal residence, not an office, AND NOT part of the military either. I think smoking is not good to do, but I think fascistic government is worse.
RACIST!
“Civilians are not military, nor suppose to live in a command and control structure”
Oddly enough in D.C. after some act of non compliance it was not uncommon to see piles of belongings and household goods curbside after immediate eviction from public housing.
And on military bases, which is often staffed with 30 to 50% civilian workers, they too were relegated to the mandatory smoking areas. There was no walking around and smoking.
Yes. Want to be free to do what you want in your own house? Rent or buy in the private market!
Do you live in taxpayer subsidized housing? Who's paying the rent/mortgage? You? The taxpayers?
Makes a big difference, doesn't it?
Yep. Clinton jacked the taxes sky high on it.
Then you had all these State Attorney Generals suing the Tobacco Companies for all that money then they put it in the General Fund so they could spend the money on whatever they wanted..
Again, you are talking about many other things BESIDES what I am talking about - non-military civilian persons living not in military quarters and living in their own personal residences and what they may or may not due INSIDE those residences. Now, quit pretending you and I are talking about legally analogous situations, we aren’t, so give it up.
Can't inhale the damn things....They will kill ya!!!
My dogs didn't seem to mind...
Might burn another one tonight!! Ha!!!
I burn maybe 10 a year.....
I've a funny story....I will tell you via private mail.
I am sorry but you are in correct, I was living on bases, I was working on bases and there were civilian Personnel living on those bases. It was in the trust territories it was in Alaska it was in a few other places up in ND and along the DEW line. There ARE exceptions. I don’t understand what you’re trying to tell me because I have seen the exact opposite.
And, I have seen how people living in welfare housing come under a set of rules that does not allow them to live there if they are breaking law. I was also a landlord to a Section 8 house And the state Housing Authority that I, and the rental was located, came by routinely and performed checkups and inspections to ensure that both myself, as the landlord, and the occupant as a Section 8 housing occupant, were both in compliance with the agreed-upon contract with the state housing office in my area.
And that is all I have to say on the matter. Nothing less and nothing more.
Again you keep brining up more kinds of situations that are NOT legally analogous to the folks living in public housing as regards there own residence.
And: “And, I have seen how people living in welfare housing come under a set of rules that does not allow them to live there if they are breaking law.” And smoking is not ILLEGAL.
“And Smoking is not ILLEGAL”
But there are some places that do not allow smoking on the premises. Right?
Does that make smoking in those designated Non smoking areas unlawful or is it just a reminder to be courteous? If the government who owns public housing does not want the residents to be smoking in the public housing unit is the government asking the residents of public housing owned by said government, to be courteous or has the government placed a restriction on the activity? it is after all government owned and operated housing. Correct?
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