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Study: ‘Medicare for all’ bill estimated at $32.6 trillion
AP ^ | 29 Jul 2018 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 07/29/2018 10:14:27 PM PDT by blueplum

WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Bernie Sanders’ “Medicare for all” plan would increase government health care spending by $32.6 trillion over 10 years, according to a study by a university-based libertarian policy center.

That’s trillion with a “T.”

The latest plan from the Vermont independent would require historic tax increases as government replaces what employers and consumers now pay for health care, according to the analysis being released Monday by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University in Virginia. It would deliver significant savings on administration and drug costs, but increased demand for care would drive up spending, the analysis found.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; berniesanders; communism; election2018; election2020; joecrowley; medicare; medicareforall; newyork; obamacare; ocasiocortez; socialism; vermont
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To: blueplum

With millions of foreign nationals sneaking into America each year looking for free stuff, this would just about do it for prosperity in America.


21 posted on 07/30/2018 2:35:47 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: blueplum

Would someone, especially the likes of Burnout Sanders and Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, please tell me one thing that the government (ANY government) has ever been able to do efficiently, and tell me when they have ever been able to effectively manage fraud, waste, and abuse?


22 posted on 07/30/2018 2:49:33 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 trillion dollars.)
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To: blueplum

The 2018 federal budget is $4.2 trillion.


23 posted on 07/30/2018 2:59:55 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: plain talk

But, how can it cost anything? Bernie says it will be free!!!! /sarc


24 posted on 07/30/2018 3:18:07 AM PDT by Pecos (Better the one you have with you than the one you left at home.)
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To: blueplum
and add this to FREE jobs for everyone donated by the American taxpayer and what figure do you get? Close to 4 trillion yearly.

Like my tagline says.....

25 posted on 07/30/2018 3:24:55 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: pepsionice
ehh there is nothing within 25 miles of where I live but I get your meaning.

I take that back, there are quite a few vets.

26 posted on 07/30/2018 3:26:39 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: blueplum

There is not enough money in the entire world economy to fund such a pipe dream.


27 posted on 07/30/2018 3:28:27 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: blueplum

Medicare was designed for those over 65 because

1. They are old, so they get more diseases.
2. They are old and they usually are ending their working years and can’t afford the usual insurance and medical costs.
3. They are old and would bankrupt their younger family members if nothing was done to help out.

Medicare is designed for the old. Your insurance and your supplementary insurance are designed to automatically renew, because older people tend to forget to do things like that. The system runs smoothly without patient input once you show your cards to the provider, again to make it easier for the elderly. The supplementary kicks in without any paperwork on the patient’s part, again to make it easy for those losing their former sharpness. The payments go straight to the provider. No referrals to specialists are needed, again to simplify paperwork and busywork.

If Americans want to baby the entire population the way they take care of their elderly, I suppose they have that choice, but don’t we baby everybody too much already?

Plus of course the system can’t handle it. The fraud in Medicare is astounding. It depends on patient reporting, and most patients don’t want to do that because they want to keep their doctor. The fraud for such a gigantic system would be overwhelming, especially with the corrupt state our country is in, with everyone trying to rip off the system.

As Amir Tsarfati says in today’s video, if we let the Democrats win in November and impeach Trump, our country is lost forever and will never return.


28 posted on 07/30/2018 3:44:18 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: pepsionice

Canada loses many doctors each year to the U.S. because of our Stalinist health care system that prohibits private hospitals. Those who are either grossly underpaid in their specialties, or who no longer want to work in a system where patients have to wait months for operations while operating rooms sit idle due to government rationing of health care dollars. Bernie Sanders doesn’t just want a public health care system. He wants to abolish private health care, so that all but the super rich will have to wait in Soviet “bread lines” for a knee replacement.


29 posted on 07/30/2018 3:59:54 AM PDT by littleharbour ("You take on the intel community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: blueplum

Current Federal budget is 3.9 trillion. This ludic robs idea doubles that amount. So instead of absorbing 20% of the country’s GDP, the Federal government would absorb 40%.


30 posted on 07/30/2018 4:49:44 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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To: blueplum

Oh, we can easily get that out of the rich.


31 posted on 07/30/2018 4:52:10 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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To: blueplum

She will say never fear she will just raise taxes 2 trillion and cover this the 4 trillion to fully convert to renewable energy and all of the other things she is promising. It is amazing how she can make 2 trillion cover so much spending.


32 posted on 07/30/2018 4:55:18 AM PDT by pas
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To: stylin19a

These people are drop dead nutz. They have blinders on and don’t “see” what’s happening in Canada and the UK.


^This! It’s “willful blindness”, they pretend these conditions don’t exist.


33 posted on 07/30/2018 5:27:18 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: pepsionice

#3, and have to wait 6-9 months to get it.


34 posted on 07/30/2018 5:33:27 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: octex

Medicare is also available for the disabled, receiving Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) aged less than 64. This is roughly 5% of the population, or about 16 million people.


35 posted on 07/30/2018 5:56:27 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: blueplum

Exactly, they want FREE health care. Medicare is not free


36 posted on 07/30/2018 6:00:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Sequoyah101
"So this medicare for all. Is that like universal health care by another name?"

That's exactly what it is. Bernie makes no bones about the fact that he's pushing universal health care.

37 posted on 07/30/2018 6:00:48 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: SC DOC

What’s the problem? Merely, print a $33,000,000,000,000 bill and you’ll get some change. LIB economics works so well, doesn’t it? What worthless fools...


38 posted on 07/30/2018 6:01:26 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: blueplum

Will Bernie pay for it?


39 posted on 07/30/2018 6:09:26 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: blueplum

Your free healthcare would consist of long waits at a government clinic for a 10 minute visit with a physician assistant or nurse practitioner, waits of days or more if you need to see an actual doctor and weeks of waiting to see a specialist. Specialized treatment like cancer therapy or surgery...more waiting. Then of course there will be rationing of care. Too old or too young too bad as death panels decide your care. Isn’t socialism great


40 posted on 07/30/2018 6:33:48 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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