Posted on 07/27/2018 12:40:48 PM PDT by xzins
Manufacturing cellphones has NOTHING to do with labor or customer market size.
I used to engineer electronics. There was a period of time when manufacturing occurred in BOTH countries simultaneously. The only reason that was not sustained is America has BAD TARIFFS.
If you buy ANY product cheaply from a Slave country, you also become a Slave country, because mobody competes with slaves.
300 million Americans is plenty market size to build any product here and cheaply. Fact is, each population market should make their own stuff, because having a Communist China building cell phones is dangerous. They have no 1A.
The reason we build in foreign countries is Congress can skim bribes. Simple.
“The only reason that was not sustained is America has BAD TARIFFS.”
Well, let me ask you; are tariffs placed on American imports by other countries just as bad?
I never hear Mark Levin mention that American imports are taxed.
“If you buy ANY product cheaply from a Slave country, you also become a Slave country, because mobody competes with slaves.”
Correct. Buchanan was quoting Lincoln to that effect.
Actually it has EVERYTHING to do with market size. Do you want to ship 3 billion units across the Pacific? No of course not. That would be stupid.
No 300 million American is NOT plenty of market size. We’re 1/4 the size of the Chinese market, and also 1/4 the size of the Indian market. Less that 1/10 the size of the general Asian market. We just aren’t that big a deal for a global market anymore.
BWAHAHAHA, each population market should build their own?! So they should have over 100 factories scattered across the globe?! That’s just plain stupid.
The reason we build in foreign countries is because it’s the right move. SIMPLE.
He who has the higher Import Tariffs, WINS !
Id take Tariffs over income tax any day of the week.
I’m not convinced.
If, as we are told, tariffs are actually a tax upon the American people, I’d rather pay that tax than pay income taxes. That way everyone pays their fair share based on what they buy from foreign sources.
If income taxes were 15% across the board (or some such number), they would be much more fair. The founders said that income taxes could only be apportioned to states who would then divide them out state-by-state to total the amount that state was assessed.
Bump! Bump! Bump!
You would have made a good isolationist Republican back in 1936.
I find this one very rich. If globalist Free Traitors™ like you had been around in the 1930's we'd have off shored key major industries to Japan and would of had to surrender on Dec. 8th. 1941.
No, there is a big difference in taxing consumption and taxing the fruits of one’s labor. If deny that then you are an idiot.
“No, there is a big difference in taxing consumption and taxing the fruits of one’s labor. If you deny that then you are an idiot.”
Since a producer’s decision to invest in labor is based on a comparison of expected AFTER TAX return on investment vs. the opportunity cost of capital, “the fruits of one’s labor” are ultimately being taxed either way.
Any idiot knows this.
Taxing work is evil because you cannot save and invest instead of consume IT IS TAKEN AWAY BEFORE YOU EVEN GET IT.
Anyone, including you, that defends the income tax is no better than an out and out Communist.
“Anyone, including you, that defends the income tax is no better than an out and out Communist.”
I’m not defending income tax or any other kind of tax - YOU are! You literally said “Tariffs made America Great”.
If you actually believe that is what made America great, then you have a very twisted understanding of American history. What made America great were the limits on the size and scope of government that the founders built into the constitution.
Those limits have been far exceeded in the last century and need to be reimposed in order to MAGA. It is the size and scope of government that is at issue, not the method of funding.
So far, you have called me an idiot and a communist, but name calling won’t make your argument any more sound.
Protecting industry did make America great. It was wise and it was the superior way to raise revenue. So yes, they did make America great. That is how profound the issue is an detriment the income tax has been.
The sooner radical fringe loon Free Traitors™ are squished out politically and get behind Trump or go elsewhere the better.
“Protecting industry did make America great.”
That is true, and the best way to protect industry is by not over taxing and over regulating it. Carrying the burden of an excessive government makes it impossible for industry to compete internationally.
And if our trading partners try to take advantage by under taxing or under regulating their industry - in other words by use of currency manipulation, subsidies, slave labor or by imposing tarriffs or other barriers to free trade, then yes, slap a PUNITIVE tariff on them until they fall into line.
Tariffs, or the threat of tariffs, offer a great incentive to our trading partners to play fair, and that is exactly how Trump is using them, which I fully support.
The use of taxation to fund government is a necessary evil, regardless of what form it takes. And when government grows beyond what is necessary, the taxation used to fund it goes from being a necessary evil to being just plain evil.
That’s where we are in 2018 - the size and scope of government is WAY beyond necessary - so any taxes raised to fund it are evil, regardless of the tax mechanism.
No tax of any kind raised to fund an excessive government is justified - period. The only justification for tariffs is to protect our industry from unfair competition. Once the unfair competition is discontinued, the tariffs should be immediately lifted for the benifit of all involved.
BS. The Republican Party was THE TARIFF Party until the globalist Free Traitors™ took it over after WWII and Bush (both) cemented it in place. You cannot place US workers in direct competition with 3rd world peasants without huge social/economic ramifications. That is why we need a tariff.
The progressives of the early 20th century started the income tax and how anyone can still support that evil thing is beyond me.
I wouldn’t call it a “tariff”, just an “anti-environmental, distance shipping tax”.
Local is the way to go and here is a great place to tax for externalities!
The progressives of the early 20th century started the income tax and how anyone can still support that evil thing is beyond me.”
Like I keep saying, I don’t support the income tax and never did.
Would you be willing to replace the income tax with payroll tax(to cover SS and MC), tariffs and a national sales tax? Because that would do it.
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