Posted on 07/23/2018 10:25:33 AM PDT by conservative98
A whole bunch of Freepers thought that he would hey also believed the IG report would doom the Mueller probe as well.
Some of us old timers figured it would be more of the same and sure enough it is.
When will some judge put an end to this farce?
I have said that from the beginning, getting Trump would just be a bonus.
Proof will be of course that no one from the DNC, Obama, Hillary camp will ever be charged with anything, because no evidence of any wrong doing will exist and/or the statute of limitations will take care of it.
Just why can’t they say “I don’t know?”
One of my fondest hopes, is that he makes Mueller name the immunized witnesses, THEN throws out the case.
There is no "undue harassment" clause in the Constitution.
A defendant has the right to confront his accusers in a public trial.
-PJ
Probably: Flake...McLame...Collins...Romney...Ryan...
Probably: Flake...McLame...Collins...Romney...Ryan...
You are correct, they may very well say “I don’t remember” and then the defense can impeach them as a reliable witness.
because Mueller wanted them to testify without ever releasing name of who it says what...Manafort is entitled to know who is accusing him
I hope that any immunity granted is extremely specific and limited in nature and scope. No blanket immunity crap.
You are exactly right. It could be that Mueller did not want his witnesses granted immunity so he could have an excuse to dismiss the charges.
Mueller is now going to have to turn over every document, notes, records of discussions with those granted immunity, potential criminal violations they committed, etc. This will also apply to conversations and documents between Mueller's team and the witnesses lawyers since there can be not privilege in that situation.
When granted immunity, any lie voids the grant of immunity. Mueller will also have to reveal what facts the testimony from his witnesses are going to prove; in advance.
While the witnesses may be granted immunity in this trial, that does not give them a real immunity from prosecution in future criminal prosecutions if their crimes can be proven with evidence unrelated to their testimony in this trial.
My guess is that Manafort's attorney is going to be able to get the witnesses to assert their 5th Amendment right against self incrimination, or admit to their own significant criminal conduct. Either way, Manafort will never be convicted, or have a conviction reversed on appeal.
Mueller will end it because the evidence is so weak, and Mueller was hoping his motion to grant immunity would be denied so he could dismiss the charges based on the unwillingness of his witnesses to testify.
This is blowing up in Mueller’s face.
The witnesses, who Mueller’s team had sought to keep from public view until they were called to testify, are
James Brennan
Donna Duggan
Conor O’Brien
Cindy Laporta
Dennis Raico
By the same token, immunity is always limited going forward, so when any of the witnesses starts lying after the testimony is taken or regarding a separate investigation, they are probably then fair game. Statute of limitations clock is reset, too, for perjury or obstruction committed going forward. This is not good for the Obamanites. They will be exposed and scrambling to cover up when immunity may not cover them anymore.
Memorandum in support of Motion to Seal Motion the Government’s Motions for Use Immunity for Trial Testimony
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vgTt4-KNPTNm3J9lVimQHHJjOR2cyDBN/view
These five witnesses have asserted their 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination with Mueller. In other words, they refuse to testify without immunity. So, Mueller knows they have committed crimes, likely similar and worse than anything Manafort has done. Why aren’t they being prosecuted?
Even with immunity, there are plenty of perjury traps for these witnesses. My guess it that if this case goes to trial, they will at some point assert their 5th Amendment right against self incrimination. That will force the judge to dismiss the charges.
It could be that the Judge granted immunity for the witnesses in order to force Mueller to dismiss the charges.
We all know Brennan, but who are the rest of them?
Mortgage brokers, real estate brokers
Judge postponed case for one Week. Released 5 names on another threar here on FR.
I think the “Not this s*** again!” guy has been replaced. LOL
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