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Could China’s Next Target Be the U.S. Housing Market?
Barron's ^ | 07/18/2018 | By Randall W. Forsyth

Posted on 07/18/2018 8:16:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There’s a flip side to the U.S. trade deficit that President Donald Trump rails against—the flow of capital from abroad that covers that gap. It leaves the U.S. vulnerable to other kinds of retaliation.

As the world’s biggest debtor, the U.S. depends on investors abroad to continue to invest in America. And among the biggest investors is the country that Trump is targeting for its big bilateral surplus with the U.S. and its alleged unfair trade practices: China. As the largest holder of U.S. Treasury securities, China helps fund both legs of the so-called twin deficits—the budget shortfall as well as the trade gap.

That makes the U.S. dependent on the kindness of strangers, just like Blanche DuBois in Tennessee Williams’ A Streetcar Named Desire, notes Danielle DiMartino Booth in her Daily Feather advisory. And those strangers can turn testy, as Russia did by dumping half of its holdings of Treasury securities in April after the U.S. placed sanctions on Russian oligarchs and other Russian organizations.

“The ginormous Panda in the room is China, the reigning holder of U.S. Treasuries, and whether it reacts in similar fashion,” Booth writes. It’s a question that takes on increased import with Trump’s latest threat to add tariffs on an additional $200 of imports from China. Back in January, there were reports China could sell some of its $1.2 trillion of Uncle Sam’s obligations, although that talk was dismissed in April. “To be sure, it would be one effective, shot-across-the-bow way for the Chinese to strike back aside from retaliatory tariffs, especially if it feels the U.S. has gone too far,” she adds.

China has two ways of hitting back at the U.S. financially: by either reducing its holdings of U.S. securities or by devaluing its currency, the yuan, according to Capital Economics.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; housingmarkets; tariffs
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1 posted on 07/18/2018 8:16:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The numbers show that, even more than Uncle Sam, U.S. home borrowers depend on the kindness of strangers. China could retreat from bolstering the American housing market merely not reinvesting the monthly MBS interest and principal payments, resulting in a stealth tightening of mortgage credit.

The housing market is already in the doldrums, as May’s weaker-than-expected existing home sales at an annual rate of 5.43 million, 100,000 less than forecast and below April’s 5.45 million annual pace. That disappointing home sales pace comes with unemployment at just 3.8%. But with single-family home prices up 5.2% from a year ago, home sales are sluggish. A further push up in mortgage rates, already at seven-year highs, would further crimp this key sector of the U.S. economy.


2 posted on 07/18/2018 8:17:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We hold the ace in the deck.

We embargo all of their shipments to Walmart at our ports. Two weeks later all the wheels will be coming off their society.


3 posted on 07/18/2018 8:20:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

RE: We embargo all of their shipments to Walmart at our ports.

How’s that going to affect the price of most everything we buy in the USA?


4 posted on 07/18/2018 8:21:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, no they don’t want to get into a Mexican standoff with us.


5 posted on 07/18/2018 8:25:09 AM PDT by scottinoc
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone who thinks China will trash their own capital assets is delusional.

It would mean their complete economic collapse. It would initiate a wholesale debt deflation in China. Everything would become worth almost nothing.

That any so-called economics mag and writer would proffer that as a potential outcome....shows they have an agenda. And part of that agenda includes deceiving people.


6 posted on 07/18/2018 8:25:38 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

San Francisco should be a great housing market for those who like human waste.


7 posted on 07/18/2018 8:25:48 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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Hawaii. Big island. Mostly underdeveloped. Chinese investors are buying up empty lots for their grandchildren. SF is now a chinatown since Honk Kong went to the Chicoms. Our consumers are not too nationalistic. More than a bit spoiled.


8 posted on 07/18/2018 8:32:04 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think home ownership is turning out to be a losing proposition for more and more people. For many folks, there are three simple flaws to the whole thing:

1. Most "homeowners" don't own a home at all. They have a mortgage, not a home.

2. A 30-year mortgage -- or even a 15-year mortgage -- makes no sense for a growing number of people who don't have enough confidence in their job situation to even know where they'll be working 18 months from now.

3. It's often pointed out that a home is the biggest investment most Americans have. That may be true, but if you ever looked objectively at your home purely from an investor's perspective you'd be a damn fool to buy it.

9 posted on 07/18/2018 8:33:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: SeekAndFind
f the tariff wars escalate, U.S. interest rates could rise if foreign investors decide for whatever reason to sell securities, which would slow the economy. In the process, the tariffs could accomplish their goal of shrinking the trade deficit. That would come about by reducing consumer spending and boosting savings—which is what a recession does.

This is economic mal practice and BS. A tariff increases domestic production, employment,spending and GDP. It is not recessionary AT ALL!

10 posted on 07/18/2018 8:34:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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How’s that going to affect the price of most everything we buy in the USA?

They'd likely go up, and you would probably have short-term shortages of many goods. But no pain, no gain. We are much more able to ride that out. Once they have to start laying off 1.3 billion people the unrest will spread like wildfire. ChiCom leadership knows this.


11 posted on 07/18/2018 8:43:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s time we wean off of China; at least reduce the dependency and over-exposure to Chinese lending, control of markets and Chinese real estate investment/ownership in the US. They are our biggest economic and military foe.

There’s always some withdrawal pain coming off an addiction.


12 posted on 07/18/2018 8:47:29 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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It’s all upside for the the US worker.


13 posted on 07/18/2018 8:48:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: SeekAndFind
As the largest holder of U.S. Treasury securities,...

False. The Federal Reserve is.

And any attempt to sell off a massive amount of Treasuries bought at low interest will cause the Chinese to lose hundreds of billions of dollars, and the Federal Reserve will just step in and buy them at a discount.

14 posted on 07/18/2018 8:48:57 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: SeekAndFind

The bonds would crash, then the US Tsy could buy them back at cents on the dollar and eradicate all our debt in one move.

China just lost a trillion dollars.

Ergo

Chinese will never risk crashing these bonds!


15 posted on 07/18/2018 9:00:03 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes. (Joe Stalin, D, GA))
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To: Alberta's Child

One more point as well; taxes. You NEVER actually own that home/property; its on one verrrrry long lease from the local governments.


16 posted on 07/18/2018 9:02:20 AM PDT by afterhoursarmory
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To: SeekAndFind

If all your money is flowing out of the country, then obviously you’ll depend on the people receiving that money to invest. If you manage to keep that money in the hands of people here, then those will be the people investing.

China is buying up huge swaths of farmland, and oil and gas properties. If they didn’t buy them, do you think they would be unowned?


17 posted on 07/18/2018 9:08:15 AM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

If you owe the bank $100,000 and cannot pay, YOU have a problem.

If you owe the bank $1,000,000 and cannot pay, The BANK has a problem.

China accepts pieces of paper that promise to pay pieces of paper in exchange for real stuff. They can only do two things with those pieces of paper. They can hold them and watch their value erode or they can spend them on things priced in dollars.

They have purchased Treasuries which are just another form of a paper promise. They can hold them to maturity and get paid in, yep, pieces of paper or they can sell them (all) at a very steep discount.


18 posted on 07/18/2018 9:18:36 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark


19 posted on 07/18/2018 10:11:35 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: SeekAndFind

China’s economy is already under stress with no easy way out of the trouble they are in. Even taking unreliable and inflated GDP stats as valid, China is accumulating debt at a rate that exceeds its nominal GDP growth. The trade war that China so far seems to be embracing has hammered its stock market and prompted backdoor state support, while the US stock market and economy are booming. A pullback of Chinese capital from the US housing market would do if any little harm to the US.


20 posted on 07/18/2018 10:39:20 AM PDT by Rockingham
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