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NYPD moves forward with disciplinary proceedings in Eric Garner's death: report
The Hill ^ | 07/16/18 | Morgan Gstalter

Posted on 07/16/2018 7:59:39 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

The New York Police Department (NYPD) reportedly announced that Monday that the police officer accused of choking to death Eric Garner, an unarmed black man, will face a disciplinary hearing.

White NYPD officer Daniel Pantaleo could face dismissal nearly four years after Garner’s death, the Associated Press reported.

The lawyer for the NYPD criticized the Department of Justice (DOJ) for dragging its feet on whether it will bring about a federal criminal case.

“Based on our most recent conversations, it has become clear that a definite date by which time a final decision by the U.S. DOJ will be rendered in this matter cannot be predicted,” Lawrence Byrne, NYPD’s deputy commissioner for legal matters, wrote to prosecutor Paige Fitzgerald.

Police departments typically hold off on taking disciplinary action until federal prosecutors finish inquiries into possible civil rights violations, the AP noted.

Byrne added that the NYPD could not longer justify putting off disciplinary proceedings.

Pantaleo has reportedly been on desk duty since the fatal incident on July 17, 2017.

Garner, 43, was stopped by police and was accused of selling loose, untaxed cigarettes.

Pantaleo was captured on viral video putting Garner in an apparent chokehold.

Garner’s gasps “I can’t breathe,” a phrase that has become a rallying cry for Black Lives Matters protests.

Garner’s family received a $5.9 million wrongful death settlement from the city in 2015.

A police watchdog agency called the Civilian Complain Review Board is set to handle the case, Byrne wrote.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blackprivilege; blm; donutwatch; murder; police
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To: Moonman62

> It wasn’t a chokehold. <

Okay, then what caused the “compression of the neck”? That was cited as one cause of Garner’s death by the Medical Examiner.

I ask that question in all seriousness. What else could cause a compression of the neck besides a chokehold? (I guess a karate chop could do it as well. But I’m sure that wasn’t the case here.)


21 posted on 07/16/2018 8:48:53 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Ahhh, another family wins the ghetto lottery! Dang, some people have all the luck.

My comments are not regarding the officer’s actions or the victim’s death (horrible). My comments are directed towards those who think that getting some free money because a loved one was killed is ok, great even.

Suing after a wrongful death is just stringy, gimmee gimmee behaviour. It’s just plain tacky. All the money in Hillary’s campaign fund will not make up for the empty place set at the dinner table.

I’m assuming that the recipients of the ghetto lottery are expecting sympathy from folks. Cos, you know, their sonfather/brother was killed. When I read these stories, any sympathy I might have towards the victim’s family evaporates as soon as I see the word “lawsuit”.

I imagine that the amount settled upon is based on lack of future earnings, emotional loss and pain and suffering. Well, I’m here to tell you that pain and suffering is absolutely free!! Emotional loss...well, that too is free. It is endured.

So that leaves me with loss of future earnings. I’m always amazed at how much an “aspiring rap star, junior college student (AS in auto mechanics), or family man” (he stays home while the wife works) is actually worth.

And I wonder at the sleazy lawyers who take these cases. They must do it on a contingency basis, with the lawyer getting at least a third. So, the lawyer has a personal vested interest in getting the highest amount. Tacky.

I’m sorry, I don’t know what came over me. I just really felt the need to share the scorn with which I view these lawsuits. Interesting how a city/defendant can come up with 5 million bucks, but they can’t afford to buy body cams for the cops.

Ghetto lottery....yuck! spitooey!!

Thank you for listening :)


22 posted on 07/16/2018 8:59:55 PM PDT by blu (WWG1WGA)
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To: Leaning Right

How did the ME know for sure that the neck was compressed? The hyoid bone wasn’t broken.

The police officer wouldn’t have survived the grand jury if he had put Garner in a chokehold. He used a take down maneuver that he was taught during training.


23 posted on 07/16/2018 9:02:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

Yes jump on a guys back and wrap your arms around his neck because he’s selling cigarettes and simply has the gall to ask you why you are hassling him.


24 posted on 07/16/2018 9:04:56 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Garner resisted arrest. The police officer used a take down technique taught in training. His arm was placed on Garner’s upper chest not across his neck. Garner then forced himself and the officer into a plate glass window that almost broke. At that point his arm may have gotten close to the neck, but that was an involuntary reaction to what Garner did.

If this wasn’t the case the officer never would have made it past the grand jury.


25 posted on 07/16/2018 9:08:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

Plenty of articles about the violation of policy back when this happened.

You believe a man selling lose cigarettes and having the gall to simply object verbally to you hassling him deserves you jumping on his back and wrapping your arms around his throat and dragging him to the ground?

You think that’s SOP for the NYPD there is little reason to continue any discussion.

The cop effed up, big time.


26 posted on 07/16/2018 9:09:11 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Moonman62

> How did the ME know for sure that the neck was compressed? The hyoid bone wasn’t broken. <

That’s a good question. And one that hasn’t been answered, as far as I can tell. Perhaps the ME saw significant bruising on the neck, bruising consistent with a chokehold.


27 posted on 07/16/2018 9:09:20 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Don W

“Seig Heil! Ze law MUZT be obeyed!”

I guess you’re okay with border crossers then.

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28 posted on 07/16/2018 9:09:52 PM PDT by Mears
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To: yesthatjallen

The black OIC standing behind the officers did nothing but watch.


29 posted on 07/16/2018 9:21:21 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: conservative98

Another democrat ATF antigun antismoke repression but they say it is racism at fault, hence the only reason why the cop will pay. If the reason had been curtailing brutally some smoke or gun activity by a white dude, then the cops would have been praised


30 posted on 07/16/2018 10:04:55 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: HamiltonJay

>> who flagrantly violated policy.

And what policy would that be?

>> Crap like this incident are what fuel the crap that the BLM and others.

BS. Garner’s death is the anomaly.


31 posted on 07/16/2018 11:57:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Leaning Right

It was a choke hold. I saw the picture.


32 posted on 07/17/2018 3:00:46 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Moonman62

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/16/22/4E5378F200000578-0-image-a-1_1531778027348.jpg

This is not a choke hold? How else could one describe it?


33 posted on 07/17/2018 3:03:45 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Moonman62

He used a take down maneuver that he was taught during training.”

Why,when there were 4 cops present? A man on each extremity, up over and prone, cuffs go on, into wagon he goes. Might take 30 or 40 seconds. I once heard a cop brag of the effectiveness of this.


34 posted on 07/17/2018 4:11:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Jonty30
yes, the police are at fault here....

4 cops and a supervisor (a sgt I believe) on scene for a violation slightly more serious than spitting on the sidewalk. I suppose NYC has no real crime these guys could have been dealing with.

he "resisted" by simply moving his arm when 1 of the cops tried to take him by the wrist to cuff him, then he was jumped from behind. he presented no threat in any way, shape or form at the time he was jumped. and he was jumped.

this situation was escalated out of control by the amateurish and incompetent behavior of the cops here. the sgt should have been fired. he completely mis-handled this. another example of public-sector employees not being held accountable for actions that private-sector employees get fired for.

35 posted on 07/17/2018 4:42:49 AM PDT by wny
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To: yesthatjallen

“T’was cheeseburgers that killed the beast!” The fat bastard had been arrested for the same thing two dozen times. He decided to fight. His heart gave out because he was a fat overstuffed swine. A grand jury recognized the cops did not kill him. This is pure bull shiite. This was a life long criminal who got caught and didn’t want go peacefully.


36 posted on 07/17/2018 5:15:07 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: yesthatjallen
I'm pushing 70 and have only had two of three short,innocuous contacts with police.During them it never occurred to me to resist,or make a fuss,in any way.If I ever have contact with the police in the future I will take the same attitude.

Anyone,of any color,is stupid to physically resist...or even mouth off...when confronted by the police.Anyone,of any color,who feels that the police are mistreating them in any way should obey all of the cop's instructions and,while doing so,should calmly yet clearly say to the cop something like "You're treating me unfairly/illegally.When the dust has settled here I will own you *and* your employer".

Given the video of the incident I can't say that I have even a bit of sympathy for the dead guy.If you play stupid games,you win stupid prizes.

37 posted on 07/17/2018 6:13:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: kelly4c

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/16/22/4E5378F200000578-0-image-a-1_1531778027348.jpg

This is not a choke hold? How else could one describe it?

...

Look at how his fingers are interlocked and pulling against each other. If you watch the video you can see that he’s not applying pressure against the windpipe.


38 posted on 07/17/2018 11:24:43 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: TalBlack

Why,when there were 4 cops present?

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Wasn’t one a supervisor. Why didn’t she intervene?


39 posted on 07/17/2018 11:37:58 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Mears
He was breaking a law. Period.
ROTFLMAO! Breaking a law? So I guess nobody should break any gun laws either? After all, such laws have been deemed Constitutional, so everyone should just submit to them, correct?

I get such a kick out of knee-jerk "law and order" authoritarians...

40 posted on 07/17/2018 12:49:12 PM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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