Posted on 07/11/2018 5:44:38 AM PDT by Javeth
I m seeing the same thing at my current company, and they want to take over more and more of the IT department.
Unfortunately we’ve been able to demonstrate a level of incompetence that would preclude that.
In fact we are almost to the point of initiating an audit of what the heck they’ve been doing with our databases
I’d still look at just dropping the 1965 Immigration Act and its associated programs.
Then prioritize citizens in any subsequent replacement.
IT loves them some H1B workers.
There is an Indian H1B guy working with me on an IT implementation project. I am lead but he is close to equal to me on our aspect of the project.
We both are contractors and the manager is also Indian. This is where it gets interesting and to me funny.
I bill every hour I work. If they schedule an after hours conference call — *ding!* minimum of 1 hour. I work a straight 9 (unpaid lunch) and am out the door on the dot. Whenever hey ask for more from me I tell them how many hours it will take and what kind of resources I will need (functional experts, infrastructure and DBA time, etc.).
I started noticing a while back they are asking this guy to do all kinds of stuff. He has been working late evenings, weekends. No skin off my nose. I asked him “man, you must be racking up the billable hours!!”
“No,” he said. They told me there is no budget for extra hours. I bill 40 a week. They promised me to let me take comp time to make up for it.”
We are getting near the end of the project so no way is there time enough for him to take the time (and I think it is illegal as this is a public sector engagement).
My point is I am pretty sure he is H1B subcontractor and is afraid to say “no.” So they keep asking him to do things they KNOW I would bill them for.
Frankly it cracks me up but it also means that he is not only taking a developer spot from a qualified US Citizen but all the unpaid OT probably would require at least 1/2 FTE in additional to that.
He is also typically Indian as he does not innovate but just does the same thing using the same techniques over and over and then adjusts them a little for the situation.
>>In fact we are almost to the point of initiating an audit of what the heck they’ve been doing with our databases
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Get ready to witness the most unsustainable schlock you have ever seen in your IT life. You will see so much hard coding that if you sneeze the code will fail.
We are remodelling an old old house in Tyler. A knock on the door revealed a young lad from Estonia selling homeschool or supplemental educational material...an L-1 visa (I asked him) riding a bike door -to-door hawking books on a hot Tyler day. Go figure
Listen, nobody that majors in STEM is lazy. That is ridiculous check pant country club thinking ( or non-thinking ).
You can’t be stupid and lazy and get a STEM degree. You are so FOS.
Damn this makes me so angry to read things like this! A century ago if a politician or a business “leader” sold out their own people the way Disney and Facebook routinely do with the h1b corruption, the politicians and crony-capitalists would be dragged out to a forested area with a set of neatly tied ropes dangling from nearby trees as a warning about the price if they kept up with their treason. Either that, or they’d be run straight of town on a rail. Traitors is what these bastards like Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg at Facebook, Bill Gates at Microsoft and Robert Iger are, and worse than almost any other kind of traitor. The people and institutions of the United States is what made them rich in the first place, and then they turn around and backstab their own country like this.
heh. ;)
That’s why I went for a VERBAL and WRITTEN communication intensive job. :)
I’ve only seen one Indian BA, and he went back to India.
Yes this is absolutely a winning issue for Trump and the GOP so long as the RINOs are kicked out and the Jim Jordan crop of conservatives gain leadership. The funny thing is even the hard-core Democrats I know just about universally agree with Trump reigning in the damn h1b and preserving skilled jobs for US workers, and several said they’d at least hold their nose and vote for Trump in 2020 for this alone. They would never vote for a backstabbing pro-H1b RINO like Lindsey Graham, but they’d support one like Dave Brat who made opposition to the h1b and the other cheap labor visas like the L-1 a center piece of his campaign.
In fact I’ve always wondered why any skilled worker especially in tech would vote for either a Democrat or a RINO backstabber like Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rick Scott or Grahamnesty, the reason for stagnating American wages is simple, way too much cheap labor supply thanks to the traitors and sell-outs in Congress caving to the Mark Zuckerbergs and Chamber of Commerce jerks who want to get us as close to slavery as possible. There are too many dirt poor half skilled techies in India willing to take a job from an American for barely above slave wages, the only way to help Americans earn what they need to pay down mortgages and college loans is do what previous American presidents knew automatically, restrict the supply of labor by reducing immigration and crowding. Trump is just the first modern President to figure that out, and it’s why, despite all the tears of the media, Dems and GOPe, he’ll win again.
Yep, fortunately the WH has been putting out plans to bar h1b spouses from taking jobs, another betrayal by Obama against American workers, and looks like they’re already in the process of following through.
So the visas are allowing the government to keep the tax base in country.
This is what the open borders hills will never understand, India has like a billion people and since their country is exactly the kind of sh-thole Trump says it is and they all know it, there are who knows how many hundreds of millions willing to work for near slave wages just for the faint hope of a green card. Open borders leads to nothing more than slavery for the country that actually has its act together as its salaries and thus its people are undermined by the flood of slaves craved by the big business cheap labor traitors like Zuckerberg and the Chamber of Commerce.
“Companies are lying when they say they can’t find qualified Americans.”
The low salaries that the H1-B program enables make this a self-fulfilling prophecy. Higher salaries would motivate more of the best and brightest into STEM, and motivate those already in STEM to get higher degrees.
This, communicated right, is what should really sway the millennial vote!
Absolute true. This is just as if not even more pressing than deporting the illegals because the damage to Americans’ salaries and job prospects from all this cheap imported labor is ruining an entire generation of Americans who will never have good opportunities in the job market again. It’s a way to ensure a permanent depression for our country. And frightening btw to realize, as you say, that almost a quarter or more of sensitive back office jobs are being done by underpaid imported slaves from India with no prospect of advancement. I used to wonder how all these data-breaches happened that spilled out Americans personal information, how there could be so many corrupt people on the inside leaking this info to criminals. Now we know. The banks, government and other big businesses love to hire slave labor, which in turn has no loyalty to the company let alone the American nation or its people. These visas need to be completely shut down.
The graduates are generally less productive than those of prior generations, due to grade inflation, declining work ethic, racial/sexual quotas, and bad majors.
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That’s the ticket trash Americans and tow the GOPe party line you POS globalist hack.
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Did you read what I said, name caller? The visas are a problem, but there’s no denying that the effect other policies of our government are huge.
I turn 66 in 2020. I moved to rural KY where I can live comfortably on SS alone. I’ll continue working while collecting it though, because it will drastically increase my income without much of a tax hit. But If I was a young man today, I honestly do not know what I would do. However, this has always been the situation.
I don’t want to learn new skills to enhance my career’s skillset. I want to refinish furniture, make bike trails on my acreage, fix cars, listen to records, etc. But I can afford to pursue that life. If I were a young man, my goal would be to live as cheaply as possible and save as much as possible - in something that will be immune to inflation - and just be prepared for when there is no work for anyone, due to robotics and AI, not foreigners. And I’d want to hide that wealth because everyone will be supported to some degree by the government, the level at which id determined by your existing wealth level. I see it happening in my lifetime, and I see no other way.
But time will tell.
The F1 OPT is actually the worst of the bunch. It imports huge numbers of grad students (the numbers dwarf H1B) who immediately go into competition for jobs with our own grads.
Employers actually have a hidden incentive to hire them because they are exempt from FICA withholding and SS matching taxes that they’d have to pay on Americans.
There are too many fly-by-night universities who will rubber stamp the visa application for any moron who wants to come here simply to get their hands on the tuition money.
This program needs to be drastically reformed, or go away.
Agree totally, that’s another reason all these stupid claims about tech worker shortages in the US are so hollow, back when I was growing up, it was never expected that someone would have 100% of the skills down for a new position, you always learned on the job and some on the job training was a given. Now so many companies deliberately put up postings requiring 30 years of experience and deep knowledge of five computer languages for an entry level position, knowing that not one person on earth could actually fulfill this let alone for entry level. So then they whine and complain demanding more h1b and other cheap labor visas to hire foreigners at a fraction of American salaries.
In reality there is no shortage of qualified Americans to work these jobs, and in some cases like Disney and Facebook, qualified Americans already doing the job are laid off while dirt cheap Indians are brought in to replace them. So India displaces its own over-population, incompetence and corruption on US workers.
And all the while, our supposedly elected officials fail to bring up the point that, in addition to the many qualified Americans who can do these jobs from Day 1, there are millions more who can quickly adapt with American ingenuity and hard work to do them after a short period of on the job training, which used to be standard.
In decades of doing business, even considering my best employees, I don’t think there’s been a single hire who had everything down about the business from Day One, even those with lots of experience. There are too many tiny details a person has to master. So we build into hour hiring the reality that even the best new hires will need a few months, sometimes a couple years of training and learning to really have everything down.
My best ever hire was some kid fresh out of college, not the kind doing dumb affirmative action majors but studied something concrete, who nevertheless was sweating lead his first few weeks because even he admitted the actual business was very different form what he learned at school. But we kept at it and trained him instead of going for a cheaper hire from India. He turned out to be one of our best recruits and alone made tens of millions in revenue for us over many years with the company. That’s what these fools scraping the barrel-bottom for cheap Indian labor will never understand.
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