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Novichok could have been carried in lipstick tube, says scientist who worked on nerve agent
http://www.euronews.com ^ | 7/9/18 | Alice Cuddy & Anastassia Gliadkovskaya

Posted on 07/09/2018 3:42:29 PM PDT by BBell

A deadly nerve agent linked to the poisoning of four people in southern England could have been carried inside a lipstick tube-like container before being planted, a Russian scientist who developed the substance told Euronews.

“The substance is very stable. It can be washed away by rain, it can evaporate under the sun. But it won’t decompose."

Vladimir Uglev Scientist

Vladimir Uglev, 72, took a leading role in developing A-234, a strain of the Novichok family of agents believed to have been used to poison former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury earlier this year.

Like British police, Uglev said he believes the same substance poisoned British couple Dawn Sturgess, 44, and Charlie Rowley, 45, in Wiltshire.

Sturgess died in hospital on Sunday.

Uglev told Euronews that the batch of A-234 must have been handled by “professionals in a proper professional setting” before being planted.

“For poisoning to occur, you need 2-3 milligrams. Think about that - a drop of water from a pipet is 30 milligrams,” he said.

Having handled the substance extensively himself, Uglev theorised about how it could have been transported and delivered.

“You make a tube, like that of a lipstick, from some tough plastic material. Another smaller tube is filled with the substance and sealed hermetically. Then it’s placed within the lipstick tube, sealed, and that’s it,” he said.

“Once you get there, you take out the tube, and just in case put on leather gloves, then you apply it to the given surface.”

Uglev said to be poisoned by the substance, “you either need to touch it, sniff it or taste it.”

The perpetrator “could hold his breath during application, it’s a one-second process,” he explained.

Police in England have said the latest pair became critically ill after handling a contaminated item near the site of the March attack on the Skripals.

Uglev noted that if someone found the container and smelled it, it would take “just three or four sniffs...for if not a deadly dose then an extremely dangerous one.”

When asked how the Skripals survived the poisoning, he said they were “lucky”, and had likely been exposed to only a small amount of the agent.

As police in England continue to search for the “contaminated item” that poisoned the four, Uglev warned that the substance could remain there indefinitely.

“The substance is very stable. It can be washed away by rain, it can evaporate under the sun. But it won’t decompose,” he said.

A police investigation into the poisoning is underway. At the time of writing, police did not say how the nerve agent was transported.

British Home Secretary Sajid Javid has accused Russia of using the UK as a “dumping ground” for poison and called on Russia to explain “exactly what has gone on” following the Wiltshire incident.

Russia has repeatedly denied involvement.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: lipsticktube; nerveagent; novichok; scientist; vladimiruglev
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Novichok could have been carried in lipstick tube, says scientist who worked on nerve agent


1 posted on 07/09/2018 3:42:29 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Well isn’t he special, and oh boy those glasses are making me motion sick.


2 posted on 07/09/2018 3:49:19 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: BBell

Who is Novichok, a tiny hockey player?


3 posted on 07/09/2018 3:51:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: BBell

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 07/09/2018 3:52:51 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: BBell

Not to defend Russia but Novichok was developed between 1971 and 1993

To assume that they are the only country to have the agent now is naive

It could be a false flag operation


5 posted on 07/09/2018 4:08:10 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: BBell

CBS news (yes, I know) said the couple were dumpster divers-looking for needles and the like to use with their drug problem. First I had heard of this.


6 posted on 07/09/2018 4:16:09 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: PGalt

I thought it was interesting listening to someone that was actually involved with the program.


7 posted on 07/09/2018 4:16:52 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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To: BBell

I’m leaning towards terrorism practice. The Russians aren’t going to kill random people. That’s terrorism.


8 posted on 07/09/2018 4:20:57 PM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: BBell

“Novichok could have been carried in lipstick tube”

If it comes in Luscious Crimson then I want one!


9 posted on 07/09/2018 4:30:28 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Pontiac

That makes far more sense than the Russians leaving a nerve agent just lying around after use, or the Russians killing random junkies a few miles from a Brit chemical weapons facility.


10 posted on 07/09/2018 4:33:44 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Larry Lucido

I thought he invented novocaine.


11 posted on 07/09/2018 4:36:44 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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To: MeganC
Russian Red only.


12 posted on 07/09/2018 4:41:12 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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To: Fhios

I was thinking that. I’m sure that angle is being explored.


13 posted on 07/09/2018 4:43:14 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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To: BBell

Awww, she’s cute!


14 posted on 07/09/2018 4:43:29 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: BBell

From my time in the defense industry, I can remember that mentioning this stuff outside of a classified briefing was worth your job. Now it’s news of the day.


15 posted on 07/09/2018 4:45:02 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MeganC

And she can sing and play the guitar.


16 posted on 07/09/2018 4:45:30 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The Soviet Union collapsed so I'm not sure how they deal with that now. Assuming this guy worked for the Soviet Union and not the Russian Federation.

Maybe he's a Putin plant for some reason as yet to tell.

17 posted on 07/09/2018 4:48:04 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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To: BBell; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON

Could also be a chess master.

“Who is your favorite chess player?”

“Um....Novichok?”

“Of course....Novichok....What country is he from again?


18 posted on 07/09/2018 4:48:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: BBell

[“The substance is very stable. It can be washed away by rain, it can evaporate under the sun. But it won’t decompose.”]

O.K., just so I’m understanding this correctly: He’s not talking about RBG, correct?


19 posted on 07/09/2018 5:29:44 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Ruth?


20 posted on 07/09/2018 5:48:23 PM PDT by BBell (es-tu stupide):>()
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