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Wait–How Many Immigrants Are On Welfare Again? (76% of immigrant families with children)
Townhall ^ | Jul 06, 2018 7:35 PM | Matt Vespa

Posted on 07/07/2018 9:10:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

This is the land of opportunity, and anyone who wants the come here can…legally. That’s not the issue. For the Trump White House, it’s been their stated position to shift our immigration policy toward allowing more high-skilled workers into this country.  

As for the families of the low-skilled working immigration population in the country, 51 percent (76 percent counting immigrant-led households with children) are collecting some sort of check from our welfare services. Is that good? No. Does that mean we shut it all down? No. That figure comes from the Center for Immigration Studies, who noted the need for the immigration process to be more “selective.” At the same time, there are a lot of American households with children that are also getting some form of government assistance  (via USA Today):

 

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

The findings are sure to fuel debate on the presidential campaign trail as Republican candidates focus on changing the nation's immigration laws, from calls for mass deportations to ending birthright citizenship..


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To: Bob434

Does that include public schooling expenses?


41 posted on 07/07/2018 10:29:21 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

FREE MONEY.....VOTE DEMONRAT!...KEEP
ODUNGO’S WISH ALIVE....DRAIN AMERICA DRY....DESTROY THE HEALTH SYSTEM....THE EDUCATION SYSTEM
THE AMERICAN FAMILY!


42 posted on 07/07/2018 10:34:11 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: wintertime

I believe it did- They looked at a lot of incidental costs when figuring out how much they are costing us- (I’m sure they overlooked some incidental costs- but i would imagine school costs were factored in, likely even costs wracked up by illegal students who committed crimes in schools and what it had cost the schools and victims- they were estimates- but the study was fairly careful about estimating)- The studies were pretty thorough I believe


43 posted on 07/07/2018 10:34:34 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: LoveMyFreedom

Just wondering how the black community feels since the Democrats have now embraced the illegals and not them any longer.

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This man can answer that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTx_MKi6tlo


44 posted on 07/07/2018 10:36:10 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Mr. K

Don’t do that. It messes up page renders in Safari on iOS.


45 posted on 07/07/2018 10:37:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: heights

Fox news just had a segment that was totally pro illegal immigrant- they talked with an orchard grower who was whining about not being able to find native born people to do the job- and Vitter was basically supporting the grower in what he was saying- Why in the hell would fox news be running a pro illegal segment? Could not believe what i just heard-


46 posted on 07/07/2018 10:37:51 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Like a full, unprotected corncrib, it’s going to attract RATS!


47 posted on 07/07/2018 10:39:22 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals can kiss my bitter clingers!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Build the WALL. Now!!


48 posted on 07/07/2018 10:40:38 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.ith the solar)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Costs Of Illegal Immigration

It is estimated that illegal immigrants cost this country somewhere between $400 Billion dollars and $600 Billion Dollars Every Single Year

DARK SIDE of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION YEARLY COSTS
45,008 illegal aliens from countries on the U.S. list of state-sponsors of terror or from countries that protected terrorist organizations and their members were released into the general public between 2001 and 2005 despite the fact that DHS couldn’t confirm their identity. Ultimate costs are unknown. Remember 9/11? ?

The Border Patrol arrested 39,215 “other-than-Mexicans,” along the Southwest border. In 2004, the number jumped to 65,814. DHS admits they only catch an estimated 1/3 of the border crossers. Ultimate collateral damage costs of the ones not caught are unknown. ?

Some sources say that bin Laden purchased several suitcase nukes from the Chechen rebels in 1996. Allegedly several of these weapons have been forward deployed to the US in preparation for al Qaeda’s next attack on American soil. Ultimate costs are unknown. ?

According to two trainers at an anti-terrorism conference, preparations are well underway in Islamic terrorist camps for attacks on American schools that will bring “rivers of blood and staggering body counts.” Ultimate costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are enormously involved identity fraud. Costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are involved in a plethora of other criminal activities including such crimes involving methamphetamine, cocaine, home invasion, auto insurance fraud, life insurance fraud, food stamp fraud, mortgage fraud, auto theft, drug trafficking, prostitution, and counterfeiting documents. Costs are unknown. ?

At the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities. $6.8B
Mac Johnson estimates that illegal aliens murder between 1,806 and 2,510 people in the U.S. annually, an average of 2,158 murders. (Representative King states illegal aliens are responsible for 4,380 murders) $8.4 B

According to FBI Estimates on Number of Arrests in 2005 in the United States and applying a straight 5% of population representation, illegal aliens would have committed 704,709 crimes in 2005. Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $17.6 billion. Some estimates have their involvement much higher. $17.6B

Based on a GAO report of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003 and extrapolating the average number of offenses out across all 267,000 incarcerated illegal alien criminals results in some 1,288,619 crimes! Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $32.2 billion. Another estimated 240,000 criminal illegal aliens are not incarcerated. $32.2B

Professor David Anderson reports that the net annual burdened costs of crime, in 2006 dollars that would be $1.62 TRILLION. A 5% illegal alien participation would be $81 BILLION. Some studies indicate the participation of illegal aliens is much higher than representation. $81B
80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes still walk the streets. As previously noted, based on studies, those illegal alien criminal will commit 13 offenses each. Total costs are unknown. ?

An estimated 2,258,550 pounds of cocaine made it through the southern border with an estimated street value conservatively estimated $72.2 BILLION. Resulting costs of the associated crime is unknown. Assume 50% is paid for through crime. $36.1B

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. Those are just the ones apprehended. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals. Resulting costs are unknown. ?
Researcher Deborah Schurman-Kauflin Ph.D. of the Violent Crimes Institute, reports that the illegal alien population includes 240,000 sex offenders – a “conservative estimate.” Based on studies, they will commit 130,909 sex crimes annually. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, resulting costs are: $6.5B

63% of the sexual crimes, 82,473 victims, were committed by previously deported perverts who returned to commit the crime. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, this would be $4.1 BILLION - more than the cost of a proper border fence along the southern border. . $4.1B

Operation Predator resulted in 6,085 child predator arrests. Some pedophile statistics report that each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Gangs Or Us estimates that MS-13 has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states, and these numbers are continually increasing. .Resulting costs are unknown. ?

In one report, mostly illegal alien Hispanics were involved in 25% of the fatal traffic accidents, an astounding 5 times as much participation as representation. In those accidents, 75% of the drivers had no auto insurance, nearly all of the vehicles driven by migrants were registered to other drivers, and 93% of the vehicles had false out-of-state tags. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are often involved in DWIs at a rate that is 3-6 times greater than their representation in the population. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

At a 5% representation, illegal aliens are responsible for 844 alcohol related fatalities. Data suggests their participation is actually far higher. (Rep.King states that illegal aliens were responsible for 4,745 alcohol related fatalities. If so, that would 5.6 times as many deaths as representation.) Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Based on NHTSA data and a 5% participation rate, illegal are responsible for 309,050 accidents, 2,132 deaths, 139,400 injuries, and a cost of $11.5 billion. Data suggest their involvement is much higher, maybe 3-5 times higher. $11.5B

Half of all children born to Hispanic Americans in 2002 were illegitimate, twice the rate for American whites and 42 percent higher than the overall American rate. Rates are suspected of being even higher for Hispanic illegal aliens. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

There are an estimated 5.1 million ESL students in the USA. If 90% of the ESL students are children of illegal aliens then the education costs for children of illegal aliens is about $34.5 billion per year. $34.5B

Many illegal aliens are carrying horrific third world diseases. In the 40 years prior to 2002, there were only 900 total cases of leprosy in the US. In the following three years there have been 9,000 cases. TB is epidemic in many illegal alien communities and a new Multiple-Drug-Resistant (MDR) TB is spreading. Each person infected with TB will infect 10 others. Treating a single case of MDR TB costs between $250,000 and $1,200,000 per person. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Between March 2000 and March 2005, only 9 percent of the net increase in jobs for adults went to people born in the US but natives accounted for 61 percent of the net increase in the overall size of the 18- to 64-year-old population. The jobs were taken mostly by illegal aliens, displacing native born Americans. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

The National Academy of Science reported that from 1980 to 1995 there was a 44% of the decline in the real wages of high school dropouts as a result of immigration. This affects Black and Hispanics Americans the greatest and is a great contributor to the high unemployment rate in this segment of the population. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Harvard Professor George Borjas has reported that illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars in 2005. $133B

The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns states we are losing $35 billion a year in income tax collections from jobs that are now off the books. $35B

National Academy of Sciences study estimated that immigration’s net benefit to the American economy is only $10 billion. This item is included to illustrate one of the very few real economic benefits of tolerating illegal aliens. Most of the other benefits of illegal aliens “doing the work that Americans won’t” at lower wages goes into the pockets of their employers. -$10B

A Rice University study calculated that in 2006 the net annual cost of legal and illegal immigration will add up to $108 billion. Illegal immigration is about half the total. $54B

The population of the USA recently crossed the 300,000,000. At the present growth rate, it will hit 400 million as early as 2029 and about 500 million in 2050. And if things don’t change real fast, maybe even a Billion by 2075. Additional infrastructure costs will be in the TRILLIONS. ?

Immigration will account for 96 percent of the future increase in the school-age population over the next 50 years. Cost to the infrastructure is unknown. ?

A recent report notes that illegals sent and estimated $45 Billion south in 2006, which was up from an estimated $30 Billion in 2004. That money leaving the economy does not produce secondary jobs here.

Using a 2:1 money multiplier, that is $90 billion removed from the American economy. $90B

A Census Bureau study estimates that households headed by illegal aliens used $10 billion more in government services than they paid in taxes in 2002. These figures are only for the federal government; costs at the state and local level are also significant. The study also finds that if illegal aliens were given amnesty, the fiscal deficit at the federal level would grow by nearly $29 billion. $10-29B

Jonathan Weisman of the Washington Post states “The Senates embattled immigration bill would raise government spending by as much as $126 billion over the next decade, $12.6B

While some of the costs summarized above are subsets, e.g. cost of the murders as part of the cost of crime, as you can see the economic costs of tolerating illegal immigration is quite considerable. You are paying for it in terms of higher taxes, insurance premiums, et cetera. Some estimates place the net costs of each illegal alien in the country at $50,000 – $100,000. (FYI: 12,000,000 X $50,000 = $600,000,000,000) When the all the indirect costs are factored in, it is probably even higher. In any case, it is a cost that YOU are paying for.

Even saving ten cents on a head of lettuce, how much lettuce would that buy?

Regardless,

What price do you put on each American who has been molested, raped, killed, or murdered by an illegal alien?

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/the_costs_of_illegal_immigration.html


49 posted on 07/07/2018 10:40:46 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Even though there is a law prohibiting immigrants from going on public assistance.


50 posted on 07/07/2018 10:41:19 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats. - P.J. ORourke)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including... school lunches

Those numbers increase for households with children"

If the numbers increase for households 'with children', who are they saying received 'school lunches' as a benefit?

51 posted on 07/07/2018 10:49:14 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: LoveMyFreedom
Just wondering how the black community feels since the Democrats have now embraced the illegals and not them any longer.

Demcrats have most blacks safely ensconced on the democrat plantation.

They know they can count on about 90% of black voters to vote democrat so there is no need to do much
beyond keeping the blacks fed and watered and full of campaign promises.

Now they have turned their attention to getting the illegals on the plantation the same way.


52 posted on 07/07/2018 10:52:08 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats. - P.J. ORourke)
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Pres. Trump said:
"the U.S. will not become a migrant camp. Nor should the border detainer program become an MS-13 recruitment center."

(NOTE National Review says that 84 percent of the detained minors are teens. The vast majority are male.)

53 posted on 07/07/2018 10:53:59 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Even over half of immigrants who have been here over 25 years are still on the dole


54 posted on 07/07/2018 10:55:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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Welfare is just the beginning..... they're all sucking up these tax-funded programs.

Universal Program for Subsidized Phones for Low Income (ObamaPhones),
EBT Food Stamps (SNAP),
ObamaCare Subsidies for Immigran ts,
ObamaCare Subsidies for Low Income, Medicaid,
TANF Welfare,
Energy Assistance,
IRS-EITC,
General Assistance Cash,
Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP),
Assets for Independence,
School Lunch Block Grant,
Job Assistance,
Job Training,
Minority Job Assistance,
Job Relocation,
Woman Infants and Children's Program,
Refugee Jobs Program,
Needy Families Cash Assistance,
Migrant Education,
Title One Grants to Local Education Authorities,
Social Security for Refugees claiming asylum.

55 posted on 07/07/2018 10:56:39 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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US TAXPAYERS FUNDED SOMALI MUSLIM TERRORISM---Seattle police detective Glen Kerns discovered hundreds of millions
of tax dollars stolen from US daycare programs were being funneled to a region of Muslim Somalia that is
controlled by the al Shabaab terrorist group.

Of the 11 countries included in President Trump's refugee ban, one stands out -- Muslim Somalia. That ban expired weeks ago and the U.S. has begun accepting refugees again from Somalia and 10 other high-risk nations. Although Trump promises "extreme vetting," many Muslim refugees come as children and become radicalized years later.

Somali crime rivals Somali terrorism as a major problem, and the two clearly blur into one another. The problem is leaking from Minnesota into South Dakota -- as Lutheran Social Services has resettled more than 4,500 Somalis in Sioux Falls. Many of the Somalis have migrated from Sioux Falls to the city of Aberdeen in search of work at Demkota Ranch Co.'s beef-packing plant.

South Dakota State Senator and GOP congressional candidate Neal Tapio is leading perhaps the nation's most aggressive effort to expose the danger and fraud of refugee resettlements. Tapio has introduced several bills that seek to rein in high-risk resettlements in his state. "While many people see compassion to serve the less fortunate, the truth is the Somali community has not been able to assimilate and has proven to be a major terror threat in the United States," Tapio said.

56 posted on 07/07/2018 11:00:41 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: EdnaMode
We really don't need any immigration at all, skills based or otherwise.

It just lowers the wage level for whatever skill they bring in.

And the skills they tend not to bring in, are those skills related to voting for liberty rather than socialism.

57 posted on 07/07/2018 11:01:10 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: EdnaMode

Skills-based immigration, and deport all illegals.


58 posted on 07/07/2018 11:04:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO CONSIDERS MEXICANS ON US SOIL TO BE MEXICAN CITIZENS SUBJECT TO THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO

A sworn affidavit by Mexico's Consul General to a Texas court asserts that Mexico's official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system.

A sworn affidavit by Mexico's Consul General to a Texas court asserts that Mexico's official govt policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access our generous welfare system

The Mexican consul's sworn testimony asserts: "My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals, and, that the main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to Mexican nationals abroad."

A footnote states that Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent. IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain parents Mexican nationality.

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Ergo, illegals have two governments looking after their interests.....our govt subsidizing them, and the Mexican govt making sure they collect.

Its time the US govt looked after the interests of American citizens.

59 posted on 07/07/2018 11:07:52 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Legal, illegal or combined?


60 posted on 07/07/2018 11:08:14 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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