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There will be pain.

But the pain here will be less than EVERYWHERE ELSE.

In the long, even medium term (1-2 years) things will be much, much better in the US than any time in the last 30 years.

1 posted on 07/06/2018 3:40:36 PM PDT by Mariner
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I agree. This is a much needed and healthy endeavor for the US. Renegotiate.

Sounds like this hedge fund guy is shorting the market.


2 posted on 07/06/2018 3:44:21 PM PDT by catbertz
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I predict less than a month...PDJT will give opportunities for China’s dictator to save face...MSM and China will underestimate PDJT.


3 posted on 07/06/2018 3:45:43 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Break in my country, you are illegal. Break into my house, makes not you a homeowner.)
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When MSM stops featuring it, you know PDJT has won.


4 posted on 07/06/2018 3:47:13 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Break in my country, you are illegal. Break into my house, makes not you a homeowner.)
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China is going to pay through the nose. They have no idea just how tough Americans will be.


5 posted on 07/06/2018 3:49:42 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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The war has been going on for decades. We just never fought back.


6 posted on 07/06/2018 3:54:21 PM PDT by shelterguy
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Well, long overdue. China needs us more than we need them.


7 posted on 07/06/2018 3:55:38 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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These ‘Hedge Fund’ a-holes need to be strung up, or given a necklace.


8 posted on 07/06/2018 3:55:53 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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President Trump is not engaging in a trade war in the conventional sense of the word.

Instead, President Trump is working to stop the de industrialization of America incentives a renaissance in American manufacturing

Our so called “Trade Partners” are actually countries with export driven economies highly dependent upon maintaining huge trade surpluses with the US.

Any attempts by these countries to “retaliate” with conventional wisdom trade sanctions actually work to accomplish Trump's goals.

There will be some pain as we move back to a higher wage, high skill manufacturing base from it's current Obama Era low wage, unskilled gig jobs economy floated by cheap imported junk from China and cheap labor from exploited, underground economy illegal alien labor.

12 posted on 07/06/2018 4:02:37 PM PDT by rdcbn
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I have always suspected that Ray owes more of the success of his fund to his dealings with the Chinese stock market, etc., than he has let on. IIRC he helped them to set it up and he’s so secretive about his fund that it wouldn’t surprise me if there were more to it than that to this day. He also hired Comey for millions to be his head of security.


14 posted on 07/06/2018 4:04:21 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Donald Trump has been engaged in economic warfare with America’s enemies since his first day in office.

It’s the secret of his many successes.


15 posted on 07/06/2018 4:11:29 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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Dramatizing!

Some things get more expensive. Some cheaper. Bottom line: jobs return. No crisis, no catastrophe.


16 posted on 07/06/2018 4:17:35 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism, like insanity, is the denial of reality.)
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“There will be pain. But the pain here will be less than EVERYWHERE ELSE. In the long, even medium term (1-2 years) things will be much, much better in the US than any time in the last 30 years.”

Agreed. It may not be pleasant while it lasts but this is the only way to stop Chiner from gutting us. The usual Repuke establishment squish (assuming he had the backbone to even start this process) would have already buckled. It will take a willingness to see this through to make it successful. I think Trump will see it through to a successful endpoint.


22 posted on 07/06/2018 5:09:02 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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I note that Dalio didn't use the words "trade war" but simply "war." I believe he means it in the traditional sense. And I think it's timely.

In the words of the great Satchel Paige, "When you're runnin' don't look behind you -- somethin' may be gainin' on you." And while we've been looking blissfully ahead under several status quo Administrations, China has been definitely been gaining on us. It's time to take firm action now rather than wait until it catches us and attempts to destroy us.

27 posted on 07/06/2018 5:24:20 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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The first day of the war was decades ago, when China manipulated it’s currency so our goods cost 40% more than they should have entering China’s markets.

Another writer that needs a day job.


30 posted on 07/06/2018 7:55:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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Trump campaigned against the abuses of hedge funds. No surprise they’re bitching...


32 posted on 07/06/2018 9:23:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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We already won this “war” but many will try to turn it into another Korea.....


33 posted on 07/07/2018 3:52:05 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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" ‘first day of the war’ with China has begun"

Why wait? We gave them time to spend up on defense, and gave them signal time to control their masses.

So if their GDP drops below whatever truly is the Chinese civil war number - it was supposedly 7%, but obviously they've settled for less now - that's on them.

Popcorn, please.

34 posted on 07/07/2018 5:04:01 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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Better sooner than later.

And the economics of new technology plus concerns for environmental pollution increasingly pull toward localized production. Which of course is safer from a national security standpoint as well.

I wish our team would make the case more clearly.


36 posted on 07/07/2018 7:47:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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