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Rain Forecast Complicates Rescue of Thai Soccer Team
VOA News ^ | July 03, 2018 9:40 PM

Posted on 07/03/2018 9:26:53 PM PDT by cba123

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To: piasa

I hope the exploration team managed to figure out a way to get some supplies to them. They might just have to live under there for a long time while a slow dig (or enlargement of passages) goes on.


21 posted on 07/03/2018 10:37:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: BBell

thanks for that post

Very informative


22 posted on 07/03/2018 10:51:24 PM PDT by digger48
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To: cba123

You expect kids that can’t swim to go cave diving?


23 posted on 07/03/2018 10:58:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: cba123

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3668144/posts?q=1&;page=112#112

Earlier thread with good information and discussions.

Prayers for everyone.


24 posted on 07/04/2018 12:16:19 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers)
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To: BBell
The local Thai language press is saying US Navy SEALS found the kids, and they aren't inclined to give the USA credit for jack squat under the present political situation, not that it should matter all that much.

"....But because most of the children, whose ages range from 11 to 16, can’t swim, the easiest rescue option would be to “keep pumping water out of the cave.”

Yes. Pump like crazy and let the kids walk and crawl out the same way they got in. Not as glamorous but the practical way to get them out.

Trying to drill a large bore hole to some location? That has worked in the Western world where you have good engineers, the equipment and the resolve to do it right. These will be Thai drilling crews doing it so based on my experience I would not bank on a good outcome trying to use a technical solution to the problem.

Pumping water? They can do that.

25 posted on 07/04/2018 1:27:43 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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Looking at the maps that BBell posted, I suspect the problem with trying to drill to the trapped kids is not the competence of the drilling crews, but getting their rigs safely above the cave system. Building the road and platform is likely a couple of week effort after you have determined where to drill. It also sound like the cave system is at best partially mapped meaning that determining where to drill could take some time.


26 posted on 07/04/2018 3:42:55 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: cba123

the enterance of the cave is now below water level .
the only way for them to get OUT is if they wear SCUBA
and dive under water and are physically lead OUT by pro divers


27 posted on 07/04/2018 4:16:59 AM PDT by huckleberry55
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But it seems to me if they can find them, they sure should be able to rescue them.

Seems that way to me, but then I'm not some super duper cave expert type. (They probably over think every detail of the rescue.)

28 posted on 07/04/2018 4:49:46 AM PDT by Avalon Memories ( Proud Deplorable. Proud born-in-the-USA American Dreamer.)
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To: FirstFlaBn

That was sick, disgusting, and I can’t stop laughing at your humor!


29 posted on 07/04/2018 5:03:28 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
My guess....they'll try to dig

Judging by the maps and pictures, it does look as if the area above there they are doesn't have any caves that could flood.

30 posted on 07/04/2018 5:08:14 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: FirstFlaBn

+2.


31 posted on 07/04/2018 5:19:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Fraxinus
"Looking at the maps that BBell posted, I suspect the problem with trying to drill to the trapped kids is not the competence of the drilling crews, but getting their rigs safely above the cave system. Building the road and platform is likely a couple of week effort after you have determined where to drill. It also sound like the cave system is at best partially mapped meaning that determining where to drill could take some time.

A few weeks time that those kids probably don't have. After living here a decade I would not put all my marbles in the basket that says they can get this done right. And while I love being retired here, their technical expertise has been shown lacking in many ways.

Pump like crazy. They will likely need to do that anyway if they decide to leave them there for weeks, hoping against hope that a large bore drilling rig can solve the predicament they are in.

I'll check with the significant other when she gets home from work about what Thai language news is saying about it.

32 posted on 07/04/2018 6:09:14 AM PDT by Sa-teef
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Whose brilliant idea was that? After rescue they should be executed. I won’t even go into a fake coal mine at the Museum of Science and Industry.


33 posted on 07/04/2018 6:27:29 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Sa-teef
Most of the articles I have read said it was a British dive team. Take that for what what it's worth.

It's actually the Cajun Navy...

34 posted on 07/04/2018 6:39:13 AM PDT by BBell (Ich bin Ein Wenig Teekanne ):>()
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To: piasa

16 feet is NOT very deep, so the most dangerous aspect would be the narrowness of some of the passages.

They should bring the kids food to boost their strength, then have two SEALS guide one person at a time back through the caves, utilizing long air hoses, rather than have the kids actually wearing tanks.

The fact that the kids don’t know how to swim shouldn’t matter as far as moving them along the pathway, but often times such people panic when they put their faces in the water. For them I would suggest some kind of MILD sedative, enough to calm their nerves without making them drowsy. Again, 16 feet is VERY shallow for diving.


35 posted on 07/04/2018 7:02:53 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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The assistant soccer coach. I advocated on another thread that he should be strung up. I’m sure some pissed off locals will have a lot to say to him.


36 posted on 07/04/2018 7:26:51 AM PDT by BBell (Ich bin Ein Wenig Teekanne ):>()
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To: cba123
Why don't they just provide air tanks, and a rope?

None (or at least some -- reports vary) of the kids can swim.

And the passages are so narrow that they'll fit just one man at a time with one air tank.

So, at least part of the way, the children would have to be swimming alone in zero-visibility. The sheer panic of a non-swimmer in those conditions might well not be worth the risk.

37 posted on 07/04/2018 8:20:48 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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