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To: jeffersondem
If President Lincoln is to be believed, Thomas Jefferson, a southerner, was a proponent of equality for all men.

Your desperation is showing. If you don't have one why not admit it?

What next? Will you claim that since 1776 northerners were strong supporters of equal right for women, too?

I leave crazy claims to you.

And while we're on the subject, there's a considerable amount of evidence that the Forrest quote if apocryphal. None of his biographers make mention of it and there is no mention of the "International Order of Pole Bearers Association", given the name it seems to be a precursor to the "Department of Redundancy Department", outside of the alleged Forrest speech.

697 posted on 07/02/2018 4:04:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg; jeffersondem
DoodleDawg: "And while we're on the subject, there's a considerable amount of evidence that the Forrest quote if apocryphal."

Forrest has long been my favorite Confederate, and the alleged Pole Bearers quote is one reason.
It puts a nice cap on a life that was otherwise devoted to slavery and white supremacy.
If it, or something quite similar, is not genuine, then Forrest's standing, in my mind at least, is hugely diminished.

704 posted on 07/02/2018 5:37:49 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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“And while we’re on the subject, there’s a considerable amount of evidence that the Forrest quote if apocryphal.”

Let’s see it.


705 posted on 07/02/2018 6:00:24 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DoodleDawg; jeffersondem
And while we're on the subject, there's a considerable amount of evidence that the Forrest quote if apocryphal. None of his biographers make mention of it and there is no mention of the "International Order of Pole Bearers Association", given the name it seems to be a precursor to the "Department of Redundancy Department", outside of the alleged Forrest speech.

Here is the speech by General Forrest to the International Order of Pole Bearers Association as quoted in the Memphis Daily Appeal newspaper of July 6, 1875.

Memphis Daily Appeal, July 6, 1875

Come on, Non-Sequitur, I know you have a hard time acknowledging when you are wrong, but you could regain some credibility by doing it here.

727 posted on 07/02/2018 8:47:56 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: DoodleDawg; jeffersondem

In the issue I linked to in the Memphis newspaper does call the group the “Independent Order of Pole-Bearers” and doesn’t mention Association or International. So, you were correct in wondering about the title of the organization. Or did you make up the title you listed yourself?


731 posted on 07/02/2018 9:13:39 AM PDT by rustbucket
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