Posted on 06/25/2018 11:46:59 AM PDT by jazusamo
Clever and not too far from the truth.
ANTIFA has been assaulting people for 4-5 years. If everyone is armed where are the bodies? you’re bravado is mostly blowing smoke. Even most city cops are ordered to duo nothing while property is damaged and others are assaulted.
Mike Huckabee’s a good man - a loving father - AND he’s totally right speaking out on this issue and telling the world the truth.
The issue is how do we defend ourselves on the street in a big demonstration or get the cops to, step up. They let too much of this go on.
Store owners would lock and load like the Koreans did in Korea town LA during the riots.
Well said...It looks to me like the MSM wasn’t going to report on this and Wilkinson certainly didn’t volunteer the information.
Press Secretary Sanders may not have said anything about it publicly because she and her husband weren’t actually there.
I too say good for Mike Huckabee, the public has every right to know this.
Liz - is there any way to confirm this?
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“I agree following them would be inappropriate and could constitute harassment. But isn’t it just that they simply crossed the street to eat at a different restaurant? I can’t say that this constitutes “following them” or ‘stalking’. If they walked many blocks, or drove in cars, I might see it differently.”
Everything about their behavior supports that this was harassment. It appears they knowingly accepted their reservation and decided to let them come in so they could try to publicly humiliate them. That’s not criminal, but it is breach of contract, if that is how it played out.
Then they kicked them out, essentially saying, “Stay away from us. We don’t want to associate with you.” But then they proceeded to follow them to their next location. Unless a person is following in order to stop the commission a crime or report the whereabouts of a criminal whom they witnessed commit a crime, this is stalking. A person might follow someone to tell them there is a safety issue with their car or some similar reason to HELP that person, under the assumption a reasonable person would be glad they did so. But this is not that. It is harassment, plain and simple. They can’t hide behind free speech. This issue is not what they said. No one is stopping them from speaking out or going somewhere public to do so.
I don’t know if the second restaurant was across the street or a few blocks away. In my opinion, either way, even if they went next door and to a place that shared the same parking area, and they didn’t even move their car, following them is stalking and harassment.
But what I read indicated that Sarah and her husband went home, and the rest of the group they were with included liberals. So, an side note, I think this strategy of harassment, regardless of its legal ramifications, is going to backfire big time. They will cause a lot of traditional Democrats to switch their votes or at least stay home. Can you imagine what such a person must think? Many people never really give a lot of thought to their political positions. Many simply say their families always voted Democrat, so they will too. But when nutcases like this harass fellow Democrats and demand that they join the nutcases in protest or be shunned from society, a lot of them are going to be very turned off.
“You mentioned restrictions on police - that stems directly from our civil rights against tyrannical behavior by government officials. Those do not apply to private citizens and likewise private citizens have greater protections against harassment.”
That’s not entirely correct. A police officer has the same right as anyone else to go to a public place and exercise free speech. But they can not do so on the clock or in uniform.
But when it comes to following a person or arresting a person, police have greater latitude to do so than private citizens. You could flag a person down to let him know he has a broken tail light. A police officer could force him to pull over. You can make a citizen’s arrest if you witness someone commit certain crimes (in Texas these crimes must be severe enough to carry a minimum sentence of a year in jail). However, a police officer only needs reasonable suspicion to arrest such a person.
In some states you must have a private investigators’ license to follow a person in order to investigate him, and there must be a reason for doing so. But neither private citizens not private investigators have the same latitude as law enforcement.
A public official may be subject to greater scrutiny than the rest of us. They may have less recourse when it comes to criticism. But they also generally enjoy greater security. Sort of a trade off when it comes to “equal protection” under the law.
“And if anyone did resort to violence because of her remarks to ‘surround, push back’ she might find out what some of those consequences are. She was certainly very cavalier about her comments.”
Agreed. I think a lot of these actions and words are legally defensible but are also borderline illegal. What Waters said is not the same as outright advocating violence, which could land her in prison. But even her borderline comments were enough to earn a rebuke from members of her own party.
The left is bruising for a fight they think they want. But, as President Trump responded, they better be careful what they wish for.
harassment is a crime, they need to be prosecuted.
I think they have reached their climax. The left, and certainly the Dems, now need to ratchet it down for their own political survival. Despite what the media reports, the Democrats are 1 state house away from giving the GOP unfettered ability to Amend the Constitution without needing a single Dem vote.
While I don’t think we need any Amendments, the point is clear. Obama blew the greatest opportunity his party had since WW2. He had the WH and his party had both houses of Congress. And in their hubris they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and ushered in a republican wave. I think you are absolutely correct, the Dems have nothing to gain from any of this nonsense. It is about as fruitful as calling the electorate “irredeemable deplorables” and “bitter people who cling to guns and bibles”. It won’t gain them one single vote, will probably turn some voters away, but will rile up their base. But this becomes a circular argument of diminishing returns. Red meat for the left is not good politics for the Dem party.
Just think about the timing of the SCOTUS decision.
That takes moonbattery to a new level. They are frothing about existence itself.
It’s watching moonbats fly into windows over and over again.
Jump into our conversation on TDS on this thread if you want.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3665954/posts
Something interesting about the SCOTUS ruling. It was 5-4 in favor supporting the POTUS. But it was 9-0 to overturn the lower court’s temporary restraining order. What happened between the 9-0 vote to lift the TRO and the 5-4 decision today?
Back in 2015 SCOTUS heard the case Zivotofsky v. Kerry. Zivotofsky is the Jerusalem born son of 2 American citizens. Zivotofsky wanted his US passport to say “Jerusalem, Israel” as required by an act of Congress. SCOTUS ruled on the side of Kerry, effectively overturning an act of Congress as unconstitutional. They ruled that POTUS has the exclusive power to recognize foreign nations. Kennedy went with the majority of Breyer, Sotomayer, Ginsburg and Kagan. Thomas split his vote. Roberts, Alito and Scalia dissent with Roberts saying it was absurd for the court to rule this act of Congress unconstitutional as the Constitution does not grant this exclusive right to POTUS, that Congress can regulate commerce with foreign nations, and that the Necessary and Proper Clause as well as the 14th Amendment Naturalization clause give these rights to Congress not POTUS.
Now we see four of the majority in the Zivotofsky case flip entirely to the minority with Trump in power. Kagan, Sotormayor, Breyer and Ginsburg all reject POTUS’ rights, granted by an act of Congress, to determine who shall and shall not be granted admission to the country. Kennedy went with the majority in both cases, and Roberts is the only consistent voice in both cases saying “Congress passed a law governing foreign relations, and POTUS signed that law, we need a damn good reason to intercede.”
He isn’t governor anymore.
Red Hen Owner Organized Mob to Harass Sarah Sanders’ Family at Next Restaurant,
“The far left is in such a frenzy now that I fear that many of them will not consider that hatred as a fuel is a dangerous and unpredictable thing, often consuming (in the end) he who wields it, as with Maximilien Robespierre.”
What is that chant the Dims keep saying? Oh yeah “Love Trumps Hate” Wish they would take that advice.
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