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The media is saying trump caved. Is it true or are they lying?
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Posted on 06/21/2018 11:44:39 PM PDT by Cubs Fan

The media is saying trump caved. And that we are back to catch and release. Is this true or are they lying?

Keeping children with parents is fine. BUT NOT if it means illegals aren't being held accountable.

if this EO makes it harder to enforce our border laws than I'd rather go back to separating children from parents.

the liberals are demographically destroying our country. that can't be allowed to happen.


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Best answer --just close off the border to all immigration. No more asylum, no more catch and release. Send them ALL back.

The democrats are using immigration (legal and illegal) to give themselves a permanent monopoly on power, if they succeed in doing that our country is finished.

1 posted on 06/21/2018 11:44:39 PM PDT by Cubs Fan
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First Canon of The Trump Era: if the media is saying it, they made it up.

No, the President did not cave. He yanked the *families separated* issue right out from under the democrats.

Now he’s signaling he’s ready to sign either the rubbish Ryan bill or the conservative bill. That only looks like a cave. It doesn’t matter which he signs. The dems will block it. There is no way in hell they will allow Trump any success on immigration.

Of course, he then comes off looking like the perfectly reasonable one, obstructed by recalcitrant democrats. He’s played this game with them before, but they still don’t see it coming.


2 posted on 06/21/2018 11:52:51 PM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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Oh, my no, he handled that brilliantly, and the focus is now on the outrageous lies in the media that drummed this idiot thing up.


3 posted on 06/21/2018 11:54:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Trump saw the Left had set a fire over crap that was growing in intensity and importantly, it was dominating the news cycle.

So he put their fire out.

And now they are upset because their fire was such a wonderful sight to look forward to. They wanted to keep that fire going but gosh darn that Trump, he took their fun away.


4 posted on 06/21/2018 11:56:51 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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The media is lying. Trump just check mated them and they don’t even know it


5 posted on 06/21/2018 11:59:08 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Who’d they build these for if we’re back to catch and release?

The First Photos of Trump’s ‘Tent Cities’ Are Here (Air conditioned, of course)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3665196/posts


6 posted on 06/22/2018 12:01:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Well, this would be clear yes/no if there were stats of people being turned away at the border, or returned. But there are not as I suspect most are still in the US and in a number of days, they are released into the US. Trump blames the laws, Sessions sleeps, Americans lose. I am not very optimistic that catch-and-release is stopping, even less that the 10s of millions of illegal aliens will be deported.


7 posted on 06/22/2018 12:05:30 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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Here’s what pat Buchanen said. he is not a liberal media guy—

Under U.S. law, teenagers and tots cannot be detained for more than 20 days and must be held in the least-restrictive facilities. But if the children cannot be separated from the parents as they await trial, both will have to be released to keep families together.

We are back to “catch and release.”

When that welcome news hits Central America, the migrant stream moving north will become a river that never ceases to flow.


8 posted on 06/22/2018 12:09:43 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Good intentions? Most leftists would throw every one of us in Gulag if they could get away with it)
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BTW I like your tagline

No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!

That is the answer to all of it is just say no.

The democrats want a permanent monopoly on power and with whites dying more than giving birth. With taking in 1.5 million new legal immigrants a year, plus illegals on top of that. the dems are getting their wish.


9 posted on 06/22/2018 12:14:59 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Good intentions? Most leftists would throw every one of us in Gulag if they could get away with it)
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They are lying. The executive order requires that parents be detained together, which conflicts with the Flores decision to the effect that children cannot be detained. If the court stands by the Flores decision, it will be responsible for separating children from parents. Trump can then denounce the judge and revert to separating children from parents as Flores requires.


10 posted on 06/22/2018 12:18:55 AM PDT by Rockingham
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A bit like ‘Illary’s fireworks display on election night, the fire went out before the sights were even seen.


11 posted on 06/22/2018 1:32:47 AM PDT by V K Lee (Anyone who thinks my story is anywhere near over is sadly mistaken. - US Pres. Donald J. Trump)
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Facts coming out about the phony MSM propaganda.


12 posted on 06/22/2018 1:48:33 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Of course the media lied.


13 posted on 06/22/2018 2:44:27 AM PDT by MissEdie (I am South Carolina Strong.)
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“But if the children cannot be separated from the parents as they await trial, both will have to be released to keep families together.”

That’s why 10 out of 12 kids coming across the border are accompanied by non-family criminal adults. They’re shields to give unfettered passage to drug dealers, human traffickers, etc.

Have the children been kidnapped by the criminals, or have their parents sold them to the criminals?


14 posted on 06/22/2018 3:13:48 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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In many cases, they are sold.


15 posted on 06/22/2018 3:40:59 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Yep - he made them prove they care not a whit about what they howl about...classic Trump move.


16 posted on 06/22/2018 3:42:20 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: jazminerose

You are correct. After Shumer said it didn’t matter what Trump did the DemocRATS wouldn’t cooperate, Trump just tossed this very hot potato back in Schumer’s lap.


17 posted on 06/22/2018 3:44:44 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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> The media is saying X... ... are they lying?

Yes, for any value of X.


18 posted on 06/22/2018 4:00:21 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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President Trump has been inside the other side’s (DNC, GOPe and MSM) OODA Loop since he and his wife came down the escalator at Trump Tower.

His EO smoked out the other side...again. Pointed out to the country that the RATS and GOPe do not want solutions, just issues.

No, he didn’t “cave”. I out-maneuvered Wile E. Coyote...again!


19 posted on 06/22/2018 4:07:00 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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Thread by @ThomasWictor:

"(1) @RoyalTXGirl asks a question. (2) Let me explain how @realDonaldTrump works. It's similar to the advice I got back when I was trying to […]"


(1) @RoyalTXGirl asks a question.

(2) Let me explain how @realDonaldTrump works.

It's similar to the advice I got back when I was trying to be a successful author.

(3) A VERY skilled editor told me the following:

"Every single sentence you write must advance the plot."

(4) It's how I write my tweet threads.

People compliment me on them.

Well, I'm working hard to make them compelling.

(5) Every tweet must advance the "plot" of the thread.

No wasted words.

(6) Every action Trump takes is in service to the "plot."

The SPECIFICS don't matter, because we're talking VERY small numbers of people.

(7) Remember the Central American Caravan Juggernaut of Death?

Remember the HYSTERIA?

The caravan barely existed. It totally petered out.

(8) That's because the CARAVAN wasn't the plot.

"Democrats are the party of illegal immigration" is the plot.

(9) What did Sessions and Trump accomplish with this whole "family separation" issue?

They alerted Americans that entire illegal FAMILIES are coming.

AND.

(10) Americans saw the Democrats fighting tooth and nail to allow entire illegal families to pour into the country through the southern border.

Another sentence that advanced the plot.

(11) The Democrats are the party of illegal immigration."

(12) A subplot that makes the plot more compelling:

Democrats are wildly insane.

(13) Elected official @BrianSimsPA greets the vice president of the United States.

(14) Denise Christiansen @denisec_smiles demands action.

(15) The plot is that the Democrats are the party of illegal immigration, and the subplot is that the Democrats are utterly deranged with hate.

Every action Trump takes is advancing the plot and subplot.

(16) Of course Trump didn't MAKE Brian and Denise go round the bend.

They always WERE round the bend.

Trump simply does and says things that he knows will goad people into losing it.

(17) How carefully does Trump think out his plots?

THIS carefully.


Kim Jong Un ends visit to China with a message for the US

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un ended a celebratory visit to China's President Xi Jinping on Wednesday with tea, praise, handshakes -- and a message for the US.


 

(18) Everything that every single person says in this article is wrong.

The entire piece is malarkey on every level.

Why do I say that?

(19) CNN itself reported why everyone is wrong.


CIA Director Mike Pompeo secretly met with North Korea's Kim Jong Un

CIA Director Mike Pompeo visited North Korea more than two weeks ago for a secret meeting with leader Kim Jong Un in Pyongyang, sources confirmed to CNN.


 

(20) "Pompeo, who is US President Donald Trump's nominee for Secretary of State, didn't take any officials from the White House or State Department with him on the trip, only intelligence officials, one source said Tuesday."

(21) The CIA Director secretly went to Pyongyang and took only intelligence officials.

It didn't leak.

(22) Am I the only one who understand what happened?

Pompeo set up a secure video link between Kim and Trump.

That's the end of the problem.

(23) Trump is still pushing China over trade.

That means China no longer has leverage over North Korea.

(24) North Korea can now communicate directly with South Korea and the US without Chinese interference.

I shouldn't be amazed that "experts" are too stupid to see any of this, but at some point you start getting really paranoid:

Doesn't anyone know anything?

(25) The reality is that a SMALL NUMBER of people know what's happening, and all of them are in control right now.

So we are in good hands.

(26) What's this?

(27) When I pull back far enough, you can see the big picture.

You were looking at approximately five square inches of the elephant's left front leg.
 

(28) We're on a safari right now.

Do want to take a magnifying glass and examine each left front leg of each animal, or do you want to stay in the jeep and watch the whole scene from a distance?

(29) My unsolicited advice to you is to put away your magnifying glass and enjoy the scenery.

Everybody's telling you that the elephant is a hay baler, or a sewage treatment plant, or Nancy Pelosi's ball gown.
 

(30) They're all wrong.

It's an elephant, but they'll never see it...

 

20 posted on 06/22/2018 4:14:31 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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