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Why Aren’t More Men Working?
New York Times ^ | 06/16/2018 | By N. Gregory Mankiw

Posted on 06/16/2018 5:41:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

With unemployment at 3.8 percent, its lowest level in many years, the labor market seems healthy.

But that number hides a perplexing anomaly: The percentage of men who are neither working nor looking for work has risen substantially over the past several decades.

The issue, in economist’s jargon, is labor force participation. When the Bureau of Labor Statistics surveys households, every adult is put into one of three categories. Those who have a job are employed. Those who are not working but are searching for a job are unemployed. Those who are neither working nor looking for work are counted as out of the labor force.

This last group is ignored when calculating the unemployment rate. The presumption is that if a person without a job isn’t looking for one, then he or she doesn’t want one, and the joblessness is not a problem. But is that really accurate?

The data show some striking changes over time. Among women, the share out of the labor force has fallen from 66 percent in 1950 to 43 percent today. That is not surprising in light of changing social norms and the greater career opportunities now open to women.

Men, however, exhibit the opposite long-term trend. In 1950, 14 percent of men were out of the labor force. Today, that figure stands at 31 percent.

Some of this change is easy to explain. People now spend more years in school, delaying their start of work. In addition, as life expectancy rises, people have longer retirements. A man retiring at age 65 in 1950 could expect to live another 13 years. Today, a man retiring at that age has an average retirement of 18 years.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: labor; unemployment; work
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To: Ouderkirk

And why do you need to work all that hard if there is no good reason to start a family?
My nephew is turning 30 this year and he does not even date, claims it’s not worth the aggravation...he works only part time.


41 posted on 06/16/2018 6:43:27 PM PDT by glasseye ("24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ H. L. Mencken)
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To: SeekAndFind

I work 50 hours a week, all on my feet, not a chair in the shop, other than the commode. But then again, Iget paid to go shooting twice a month. I’m 52, and have no trouble falling asleep at night, lol.


42 posted on 06/16/2018 6:52:24 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Tax-chick

Lol, no women where I work. They couldn’t hack it.


43 posted on 06/16/2018 6:54:14 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Many urban residents work in Sales Of Interesting Chemicals
and Acquisition Of Valuable Items.


44 posted on 06/16/2018 6:56:07 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m just saying: When they tell you that your hope for advancement is zero because they want diversity, you stop trying to advance. Instead its a good time to get out.

When they say that everything you say at work or anything you say on line is in appropriate and can be cause for dismissal you start thinking about getting out.

When they start giving you training after training that says your the cause of all evil and everything you know to be true is not. Its time to leave.

When Ann Rand’s question about Where is John Gault sounds less like fiction and more like a reasonable choice. Its time to get out.


45 posted on 06/16/2018 6:58:07 PM PDT by poinq
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To: dangerdoc

Not really. Gotta show up, though. If someone’s not working now, unless they’re legit disabled, it’s because they don’t want to, or make more money from benefits.


46 posted on 06/16/2018 6:58:26 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: glasseye

Men have always built the future for the sake of their descendants, so when they are disenfranchised from parenthood, they no longer have a reason to build the future and, correspondingly, civilization implodes.


47 posted on 06/16/2018 6:58:27 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: poinq

Excellent points.


48 posted on 06/16/2018 6:59:08 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: dfwgator

Every part of college is designed to favor women.


49 posted on 06/16/2018 7:00:16 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: dfwgator

When my daughter started UGA, it was 65/35 female to male, and it seemed 75% of the females were Indian or chinese.


50 posted on 06/16/2018 7:02:18 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

Every part of the entire education system is designed to favor females. It’s a joke. I have my son in the best school I can manage, with sex-separated classes after 5th grade, and the curriculum is absurd, all group projects and presentations and nonsense work.


51 posted on 06/16/2018 7:06:02 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

Bingo....or should I say MGTOW.


52 posted on 06/16/2018 7:12:01 PM PDT by glasseye ("24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ H. L. Mencken)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have 0.95 available workers for every open job. What do they want?


53 posted on 06/16/2018 7:13:08 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: proxy_user

You are correct. I personally know of men who do the handyman
thing for cash and make a good living off of it. There are a lot of single woman homeowners out there and they are more then happy for have guys like that around.


54 posted on 06/16/2018 7:18:28 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I was just going to say according to articles in parenting magazines there are many stay at home fathers now. I have no idea if that is reality but surprised it was not mentioned.


55 posted on 06/16/2018 7:20:25 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: BobL

That may explain part of it. I don’t know enough gays to know the trend- but I know of 2 male gay couples. In one couple one male has a very good job and his partner is an artist that does not seem to sell anything. The other couple one has a successful business and his partner is very much like the stereotype 1950s stay at home housewife.


56 posted on 06/16/2018 7:27:38 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: yldstrk

Not dressed for work and not working? I worked an extremely irregular schedule at one point in my life, so you might have seen me or one of my colleagues during the day in a restaurant.


57 posted on 06/16/2018 7:33:17 PM PDT by Silentgypsy ( “If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.”__Scorpion)
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To: Jonty30

And yet we’re being told a college degree has become a waste of time. So which is it?


58 posted on 06/16/2018 7:35:22 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Secret Agent Man
But even females are now tapering off.

I've raised the question several times. We keep hearing about the unemployment rate dropping, yet the labor force participation rate is a tad lower than when Trump assumed office.

59 posted on 06/16/2018 7:36:35 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: elpadre

Probably. Given that and the HUGE number of boomers in that category, sure there are fewer men in the labor force.

My brothers struggle. One works two or three jobs at 45. He left a decent paying job because the boss was crooked. I worry about my younger teen nephew and what will be around when he graduates. Even tougher for guys as Christian (straight), white males.


60 posted on 06/16/2018 7:37:49 PM PDT by madison10
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