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Defense of Property

You cannot shoot someone for stealing your car. You cannot shoot someone for stealing your wallet. You cannot shoot someone for wandering over your property line. In the eyes of the law, life has priority over possessions—even a criminal’s life. You may defend your own safety with the use of force, but not your stuff.


93 posted on 06/15/2018 6:45:53 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

You cannot shoot someone for stealing your car. You cannot shoot someone for stealing your wallet. You cannot shoot someone for wandering over your property line. In the eyes of the law, life has priority over possessions—even a criminal’s life. You may defend your own safety with the use of force, but not your stuff.


Mostly doctrine that was put in place after 1950. Based on court decisions.

Cultural attitudes are changing. I see juries tending to reverse this doctrine, or at least, having self defense expanded quite broadly.

The Chicago case is an example of this.

A great many people are fed up with crime, and do not care what happens to thieves.

I will not be surprised to see the law itself changed closer to Texas law in the nest decade or two.


97 posted on 06/15/2018 6:51:33 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: babble-on

“You may defend your own safety with the use of force, but not your stuff.”

You need to study the laws of the state you are in. In Maryland, for example, use of deadly force in defending your property is perfectly legal. It’s completely illegal across the Potomac here in Virginia.


106 posted on 06/15/2018 7:03:02 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: babble-on
You may defend your own safety with the use of force...

Yeppers...you got that one correct.

So...MY vehicle, being driven by a yute thug towards me in an attempt to run me over is NOT a personal safety thing?

Once the vehicle becomes a weapon, the fact that it is owned by the one doing the shooting at the driver of vehicle, using said vehicle as a weapon...well, kind of moot point there, huh?

I don't blame him...I would of done the same thing.

And the yute...who of course was an aspiring rap artist and was going back to school and was getting his life straightened out...yeah...to hell with him.

108 posted on 06/15/2018 7:07:28 AM PDT by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: babble-on

Under Texas Penal Code §9.42, a person may use deadly force against another to protect land or property if:

1. He is the owner of the land;
2. He reasonably believes using the force is immediately necessary to prevent arson, burglary, or robbery; and
3. He reasonably believes that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means.


151 posted on 06/15/2018 8:48:54 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: babble-on

Dont come wandering around Kansas too much, do you.


155 posted on 06/15/2018 8:53:23 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: babble-on
You may defend your own safety with the use of force, but not your stuff.

Bullshit. The legalities vary from State to State. The Federal Government does not possess the power dictate such doctrine.

Suppose you snatch an unattended bag of money from an armored car. You don't think the guards can shoot you? Balderdash...

165 posted on 06/15/2018 9:35:25 AM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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