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To: central_va
So foreigners are going to build our warships now! WTH? We are done people.

There's a certain type of "conservative" who really doesn't give a damn about the country as long as they and their cronies are making money, i.e. the Koch Brothers/Club for Growth wing of the Republican party. They're basically George Soros minus the welfare state.

America is being deindustrialized, to the point where we don't even build our own warships and fighter planes with our own materials? Why, that doesn't matter, as long as the right people are raking in money by shorting foreign currency or from mortgage default swaps.

Large areas of the US are being transformed into poverty and crime-ridden Third World slums thanks to mass immigration from Mexico and Central America? Who cares, as long as the Club for Growth types can save money on labor and can sit safe and snug in their gated communities.

32 posted on 06/13/2018 6:43:18 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Nice rant, but not anywhere close to the actual situation. We actually *are* building warships in the US. The problem is that the Navy stupidly decided to build the wrong warships (Littoral Combat Ships) to replace frigates. They have our two shipyards that would build frigates building these LCS. It turns out that the LCS sucks at replacing frigates, and we need a bunch of frigates *yesterday*. Due to the LCS program and political stupidity in the Obama years, there are zero modern frigate designs ready to go at any US naval architect. We need frigates now, we can’t wait, so we’re buying an off the shelf design.

Whichever design is selected will be built on the US as soon as production can be set up; only the first few will be built overseas while that happens.

This is not new - the P-51 Mustang used a British Merlin engine because no US engine could do what needed to be done in time to be useful. The P-80 Shooting Star used a British jet engine because no US engine of the required performance would be available in time to be used. The AV-8 Harrier jump jet in Marine service is British - because no US counterpart made economic sense to develop. In WW2, we adopted the British 57mm towed antitank gun because we didn’t have an equivalent design and we needed one right away. In all these cases, initial production started overseas but production began in the US as soon as possible. The list of weapons and platforms that this has happened with is very, very long.


38 posted on 06/13/2018 12:58:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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