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New California Law May Punish Pastors for Helping Others Leave Homosexuality
The New American ^ | 07 June 2018 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 06/07/2018 2:26:10 PM PDT by detective

Could California pastors be charged with a crime for using Christian doctrine to help someone leave homosexuality? This could be the case if a new Golden State bill, AB 2943, becomes law. Making matters worse, some critics claim it could even be used to impede sales of the Bible.

California, 11 other states, and D.C. already ban “reparative therapy” — which seeks to eliminate unwanted same-sex attraction or feelings of “gender” identity — for minors. The new bill, however, applies to adults as well and would prohibit not just therapists but anyone from offering such aid. It’s gold-plated hypocrisy: The same people who allow a physician to help a person “change his sex” (not actually possible), a quality certainly inborn, want to make it a crime to help someone change his sexual feelings — in the thinking that they’re inborn.

Yet AB 2943 goes further still and prohibits efforts to change even behavior. As National Review’s David French explains, if, for example, “a sexually active gay man or woman sought counseling not to change their orientation but rather to become celibate, then the services and goods provided in that effort would violate this statute.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: christians; duke; homosexualagenda; selwynduke; sodomy
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To: detective

Then should be Equally applied to those selling sodomy.


21 posted on 06/07/2018 3:11:35 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: detective
Could California pastors be charged with a crime for using Christian doctrine to help someone leave homosexuality? This could be the case if a new Golden State bill, AB 2943, becomes law. Making matters worse, some critics claim it could even be used to impede sales of the Bible.

Never pass Constitutional muster.

22 posted on 06/07/2018 3:12:29 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Lazamataz

Oh yeah we should invade it. With weapons more powerful than our mortal nukes, for those can only kill the body. They cannot slay Satan.


23 posted on 06/07/2018 3:12:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“We have wakened a sleeping giant, and have filled him with a terrible resolve.”


24 posted on 06/07/2018 3:13:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: eyeamok

Sin has a way of selling itself, to those who aren’t prepared to face it in enough power to tell it to depart.


25 posted on 06/07/2018 3:15:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Greet the brethren with a holy kiss.”


26 posted on 06/07/2018 3:16:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
However, with Masterpiece, the Christian legal case was strengthened.

You are correct. If there was one holding from that case, it is that the the state MUST give deference to, and treat as valid, a sincerely held religious belief. SJWs in positions of power cannot dismiss a religious doctrine as an extension of the Nazis. That was made very clear by seven justices of the SCOTUS.

27 posted on 06/07/2018 3:26:27 PM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

:o*


28 posted on 06/07/2018 3:28:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, and anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these thing)
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To: henkster

The Court also thought it had to go “awwwww” about the LGBT crowd, but at least it said so far that it wasn’t going to force Christian faith to be what it is not.

And in a way... the church should also go “awwwww” about the LGBT crowd, but not in such a way as to tell them that their sin is the way to go in order to get ultimate fulfillment. There generally are a lot of horror stories behind most LGBT lives. It’s rare for a person of reasonable upbringing to sit in a chair, cogitate deeply, and say Ah! I’m going to be “gay.” If it happens, it is not the case that Christians want to concentrate on. That person may well wend his or her way to hell on his or her own. But how about the 99.99% that are the rest?


29 posted on 06/07/2018 3:31:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

(_0_) [a hug]


30 posted on 06/07/2018 3:39:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: detective

So trying to help someone change which gender they are attracted to is malpractice. But multilating their privates, giving them hormones, and encouraging their delusion this chaanges their actual gender is progressive and liberating?


31 posted on 06/07/2018 6:10:34 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: detective

Does that mean he expects the Mohammedan faith community to “evolve with the times” also?


32 posted on 06/07/2018 6:59:23 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: detective

If these people who are pushing this perversion do not repent, they will face an extremely angry Christ Who will cast them into the eternal flames.

Sin angers Him on general principle, but hindering people from coming to Him is something He especially hates and if it involves children, it is expressly singled out for an exceptionally severe judgement.

Read Matt.18:6 and Luke 17:2.


33 posted on 06/08/2018 5:23:44 PM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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