This was a cop out decision by the SCOTUS. They just kicked the can down the road - Kennedy himself said as much saying that other cases might have different outcomes. The SCOTUS slapped the hands of the Colorado commission for their bullying ways against Mr. Phillips.
I think Kennedy or Ginsburg has to go before this issue really becomes decided.
House - So no fake impeachment happens.
Senate - So more conservative justices are confirmed...and not just potential SCOTUS.
Thanks for providing the link to the decision. Much prefer to read it myself rather than a media filter. This one might be worthwhile for me to process into HTML from the PDF.
Excellent
While the baker who brought the case here had a victory of sorts, the court purposefully left undefined what the extent of these discrimination laws might be. After watching the court for many years now, I'm disgusted by their general cowardice, and at how slowly the wheels of the legal system grind today. This case started in 2012, and here we have this weak decision in 2018.
In contrast, let's take a look at another case...
On April 18, 1938 Jack Miller and Frank Layton were arrested for possession of a sawed-off shotgun.
On June 2, 1938 Miller and Frank Layton were indicted for possession of a sawed-off shotgun.
On June 11, 1938, the defendents filed a Demurrer to Indictment, challenging the indictment on constitutional grounds. On that same date Heartsill Ragon, United States District Judge sustained the demurrer on the grounds that the law they were charged under was unconstitutional according to the 2nd Amendment.
On September 21, 1938, Miller and Layton were re-indicted on a charge of transporting a sawed-off shotgun from Claremore to Siloam Springs last April 18.
On January 3, 1939 defendants filed a demur to the (re-)indictment. Again, on that same date Heartsill Ragon United States District Judge sustained the demurr on Constitutional grounds.
On January 30, 1939 the U.S. Government filed an appeal.
In March 1939 the U.S. Government filed a brief with the Supreme Court for this case to support it's appeal.
On May 15, 1939 the Supreme Court issued it's opinion.
So, the entire thing, from arrest to supreme court decision as from 4/18/1938 to 5/15/1939.
Kinda puts today's legal system to shame doesn't it?
BTW, the details on all of the above can be found on my website here
So is it correct what the justices are saying that a vendor does NOT have the right, in the land of the free, to sell to whom they want?
They say “vendor” so I take a contractor CAN refuse to build a house for someone if they choose?
The Media headlines were as varied as a box of LGBT colors!
How about Baker ‘won’ Gays ‘lost’...
“U.S. Supreme Court backs Christian baker who ‘spurned’ gay couple”.....
“U.S. Supreme Court backs Christian baker who ‘rebuffed’ gay couple”.....
“Supreme Court Ruling ‘Ducks Conflict’ Between Religious, Gay Rights”.....
“Supreme Court ‘backs’ Colorado baker’s gay wedding cake ‘snub’.......
“In narrow ruling, Supreme Court gives victory to baker”...
“Supreme Court’ backs’ baker who ‘refused’ to sell cake for gay wedding......
“Supreme Court to’Decide’ If Christian Businesses Must Serve Gay
“Icing on the Cake: Justice Dept. Backs Christian Baker”....
This should have never made it this far. At the time of the refusal (k in 2012) to create a special work, a (typically over $500 ) cake for the specific purpose of celebration what the Bible nowhere sanctions but only condemns, the CO state constitution itself invalidated same-sex marriage and defined marriage as btwn male and female ( by amendment it specified marriage as being btwn opposite genders, thus agreeing with the Lord Jesus - (Matthew 19:4-6) . Thus the baker acted in accordance with both the Law of God and the highest law of the state, but who is prosecuted by a political commission.
The Colorado Civil Rights Commission not only fined Jack, but ordered that if he made custom wedding cakes for heterosexual couples, he also had to do it for same-sex couples. Then the Commissionbehaving like some communist dictatorship mightordered Jack and his employees to go through a re-education program and provide quarterly compliance reports. - BreakPoint: Get the Facts about Jack (Phillips, that Is)
And wedding cakes have traditionally been used to convey a message. A dress maker refusing to sell a wedding dress to a man for his homosexual wedding when even the state did not recognize such as a legal marriage would also be justified.A somewhat proper analogy would be a black couple trying to contract with a Jewish baker to create a cake celebrating the anniversary of Luis Farrakan's Nation of Islam, and the baker refusing due to this being a perversion of the True God. Resulting in the baker being charged with discrimination against a minority based on race.
In July 2012, same-sex couple Charlie Craig and David Mullins from Colorado made plans to be legally wed in Massachusetts and return to Colorado to celebrate with family and friends. At that time, Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriages. (In 2000, Gov. Bill Owens signed into law a bill banning same-sex marriage.[1] In 2006 by a margin of 56 percent to 44 percent voters had passed Colorado Amendment 43 which defined marriage in the state constitution as only between one man and one woman.[2] On October 7, the Colorado Supreme Court removed the legal obstacles preventing Colorado's county clerks from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, legalising same-sex marriage in the state.[3] Since 2014, the state has since allowed same-sex marriages, and the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled in Obergefell v. Hodges (2015) that marriage is a fundamental right that extends to same-sex couples.)[4]
Craig and Mullins visited Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colorado in 2012 to order a custom wedding cake for their return celebration. Masterpiece's owner Jack Phillips, who is Christian, declined, informing the couple that he did not create wedding cakes for same-sex marriages due to his religious beliefs although the couple could purchase other baked goods in the store. Craig and Mullins promptly left Masterpiece without discussing with Phillips any details of their wedding cake.[5]:2 The following day, Craig's mother, Deborah Munn, called Phillips, who advised her that Masterpiece did not make wedding cakes for same-sex weddings[5]:2 because of his religious beliefs and because Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriages.[6][5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Colorado
Until 2013, a couple with an out-of-state civil union or same-sex marriage could not dissolve their relationship in Colorado, because C.R.S. 14-2-104(2) does not recognize a valid a same-sex marriage [vs civil unions] performed outside of Colorado. - Same-Sex Marriage & Civil Unions
Colorado's state constitutional ban on same-sex marriage was struck down in the state district court on July 9, 2014, and by the U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado on July 23, 2014.
After being denied a marriage license, a lesbian couple filed a lawsuit on October 30, 2013 in the Colorado District Court....Colorado's attorney general announced he would defend the state's ban.[16]...On July 18, 2014, the Colorado Supreme Court ordered clerks in Adams and Denver counties stop issuing marriage licenses....On October 7 [2014], the Colorado Supreme Court removed the legal obstacles preventing Colorado's county clerks from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, legalising same-sex marriage in the state.[3] - Same-sex marriage in Colorado - Wikipedia
Just as Jack would not create custom cakes for Halloween and divorce celebrations, as has been stated, he would not contract to create a cake for straight people who wanted one to celebrate "gay marriage" or that of btwn a man and his goat.
Creating and selling a cake is not just selling a cake when you know it is to be specifically used to do something unlawful. Celebrating an unlawful sexual union is sin, and knowingly creating and selling a special work specifically for that celebration facilitates/helps that sin by providing assistance, is sin. Even in US law, while dealing with weightier cases aligns with this. Accomplice Mens Rea and Actus Reus
Finally, a defeat for the queers and their incessant attacks on Christians. Happy rimming to all the butt boys.
Now he should sue.