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This Factory Was Ready to Expand. Then Came the Trump Trade Wars.
New York Times ^ | June 1, 2018 | Jim Tankersley

Posted on 06/03/2018 5:40:11 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

Says the Never Trumper with zero proof whatever

Notice this sob story hasn’t actually felt or seen any impact. He just fears it


21 posted on 06/03/2018 5:58:47 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TTFlyer
"100% Horse****."

It's The NY Times.

What did you expect?

22 posted on 06/03/2018 5:59:45 AM PDT by daler
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To: deadrock

“What manufacturing? You free traders/open border types killed that decades ago.”


This used to be a great manf area. Now those worker’s grown-up kids do Meth and live on food stamps.

I’ll pay more to get jobs back. A person who thinks that the current status quo is ok isn’t seeing the full picture of what “free trade” costs us each year.


23 posted on 06/03/2018 6:00:23 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: reaganaut1

It’s about time we stopped trading our income statements to fund overseas balance sheets.


24 posted on 06/03/2018 6:01:02 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Plug Power used to be the darling of the coming revolution, which was going to use hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells to completely solve all our pollution and energy problems. [sic] More NeverTrumper / NY Slimes agitprop.

25 posted on 06/03/2018 6:01:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Go Gordon

Or the explosion of a fork lift powered by their fuel cell dropped their stock


26 posted on 06/03/2018 6:01:58 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: reaganaut1
What hurts American manufacturing is the dumping of cheap steel on the US market by the Chinese. The US is the least protectionist country in the world. The duties levied on our goods and services by the EU and China are far higher than those we import from them. This is not fair and reciprocal trade. It is why we run a trade deficit with almost every country in the world.

Key Findings of the Steel Report:

The United States is the world’s largest importer of steel. Our imports are nearly four times our exports.

Six basic oxygen furnaces and four electric furnaces have closed since 2000 and employment has dropped by 35% since 1998.

World steelmaking capacity is 2.4 billion metric tons, up 127% from 2000, while steel demand grew at a slower rate.

The recent global excess capacity is 700 million tons, almost 7 times the annual total of U.S. steel consumption. China is by far the largest producer and exporter of steel, and the largest source of excess steel capacity. Their excess capacity alone exceeds the total U.S. steel-making capacity.

On an average month, China produces nearly as much steel as the U.S. does in a year. For certain types of steel, such as for electrical transformers, only one U.S. producer remains.

As of February 15, 2018, the U.S. had 169 antidumping and countervailing duty orders in place on steel, of which 29 are against China, and there are 25 ongoing investigations.

Recommendations of the Steel Report:

Secretary Ross has recommended to the President that he consider the following alternative remedies to address the problem of steel imports:

A global tariff of at least 24% on all steel imports from all countries, or

A tariff of at least 53% on all steel imports from 12 countries (Brazil, China, Costa Rica, Egypt, India, Malaysia, Republic of Korea, Russia, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey and Vietnam) with a quota by product on steel imports from all other countries equal to 100% of their 2017 exports to the United States, or

A quota on all steel products from all countries equal to 63% of each country’s 2017 exports to the United States.

Each of these remedies is intended to increase domestic steel production from its present 73% of capacity to approximately an 80% operating rate, the minimum rate needed for the long-term viability of the industry. Each remedy applies measures to all countries and all steel products to prevent circumvention.

27 posted on 06/03/2018 6:02:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: reaganaut1
Don't be fooled folks. Plug power is a Deparment of Energy Obama supported "green" industry pushing hydrogen fuel cell technology. See PLUG POWER TO RECEIVE $8.6M IN DOE FUNDING

The real problem with all such technologies is that they are not economically competitive with say liquid fueled internal combustion engines/natural gas and gas turbine generating stations. Plug powers competitor is cheap natural gas produced by the US fracking industry.

More socialist, globalist, crony capitalist BS.

28 posted on 06/03/2018 6:03:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: reaganaut1

Two indicia of management weakness.

1) Locating a factory in New York
2) Importing cheap Chinese parts rather than buying American in the current international climate.


29 posted on 06/03/2018 6:04:18 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: reaganaut1

Raising steel prices through tariffs hurts American manufacturing.


Allowing your steel industry to be crushed by the Chinese isn’t such a bright idea for long-term national security.

And if the Chinese manipulate things to put our industries out of business, we need real leaders like President Trump to stand up for the American worker.


30 posted on 06/03/2018 6:04:22 AM PDT by boycott
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To: reaganaut1
Siding with the socialists at the NYT again I see.

Such utter BS. Other countries need to drop there tariffs then we will increase exports and export manufactured goods. This is globalist propaganda.

31 posted on 06/03/2018 6:04:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: reaganaut1

The trade debacle of the last 40 years is all Trump’s fault.


32 posted on 06/03/2018 6:04:57 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The MSM is the enemy of the American people)
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To: reaganaut1

Fuel cell manufacturer Plug Power (NASDAQ:PLUG) has done relatively little since going public all the way back in 1999. Then again, maybe it’s all about timing.

The global focus in recent years on alternative energy and the electrification of transportation could mean the fuel cell pioneer’s long wait to achieve market traction could soon be over. And in fact, a substantial increase in the installed base of the company’s products in 2017 could suggest just that. The problem is that the business has historically struggled to post profits, and Plug Power stock has been a downright awful investment

LET ME REPEAT THAT!

Plug Power stock has been a downright awful investment

Left over from the Obama disaster, solyndra comes to mind, how much federal funds were donated and promised by the criminals in DC moving forward. Being in NY what kind of tax breaks were given by his arrogance the governor sfachime cuomo for political support


33 posted on 06/03/2018 6:05:02 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: bray

No digging needed. The nyslimes always sloshes around the cesspool of distortion, lies and omission. They are an embarrassment to the First Amendment.


34 posted on 06/03/2018 6:05:21 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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By looking at the globalist scum who oppose Trump on Fair trade it’s easy to see why he’s so right.


35 posted on 06/03/2018 6:06:02 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: reaganaut1

How long do you have to be completely wrong before you begin to question your assumptions?


36 posted on 06/03/2018 6:06:57 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: reaganaut1
Prices are rising for imported goods, other nations are erecting retaliatory trade barriers,

Why would the free trade world do that? So doesn't this prove that the rest of the world DOES NOT practice or believe in so called FREE TRADE? LOL!

37 posted on 06/03/2018 6:07:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: reaganaut1
Raising steel prices through tariffs hurts American manufacturing.

Supposition and/or conjecture.

In the opposite line of thinking...
Raising steel prices through tariffs increases American steel production.

38 posted on 06/03/2018 6:07:26 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ronnie raygun
Plug Power (NASDAQ:PLUG) has done relatively little since going public all the way back in 1999

That's not true. See the above. They have been active raking in federal subsidies (google plug power department of energy).

They are headquartered in Schumerland.

39 posted on 06/03/2018 6:07:33 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: reaganaut1
Power Plug is trying to lay blame of their troubles at President Trump's feet. However, their problems started before Trump was even elected President.

You really should do research beyond some article that provides ammunition you seek to make your case, for without it, it makes you look like a simpleton.

Their major competitor, Ballard Power Systems, is another cause for their troubles. So why is Ballard okay & they are not? Hmmm.

40 posted on 06/03/2018 6:08:04 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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