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"Eh, to be fair, MLK at least knew enough about Communism to denounce it as anti-Christian, so he definitely was far better than Jesse by any day of the week (especially when he if anything outright loved Communism, especially hailing Castro)."

MLK was trained at the Highlander Folk School here in my state of TN. It was used to bring up Communist activists. He believed in massive federal government to resolve problems and thought the Communist system was a legitimate opposition system (he said as much on an interview with Merv Griffin). He may have sounded "Conservative" in some of his speeches (indeed, he plagiarized the speech of a Republican minister delivered to the GOP National Convention, "I Have A Dream"), but he was still very left wing and helped to lead 90%+ of Black voters onto the Democrat Plantation. The damage that has done to the Black community has been without equal, especially the destruction of the Black family.

"Yeah, Nixon probably wouldn’t have made the same mistakes JFK did. Though then again, apparently he also lied about the Missile Gap when Ike told BOTH of them it was false via U2 data if the Politically Incorrect Guide to the 1960s is to be believed, so who knows? As far as JFK and whether he could do much worse, I’d beg to differ, even though I’d like to believe you that he couldn’t afford to do so. Aside from how the Democrats acted later on (including Maxine Waters among others), various left-wingers can and HAVE acted worse around that time, like for example, Jean-Paul Sartre, the May 1968 rioters, Michel Foucault, and the like (and I’m not even taking into account people of the distant past such as Sacco and Vanzetti, Emma Goldman, the Jacobins and other French Revolutionaries, and Russian Nihilists, among others). Heck, the Weathermen Bombers and George Lucas automatically proved themselves to be FAR worse than JFK on his worst days, actively rooting for the enemy and actively, deliberately trying to blow up their own fellow American citizens in the case of the Weathermen Underground, and George Lucas, if his interview with TIME is to be believed, is no fan of the Kennedys either (apparently he implied that the formation of the Empire had some basis on the Kennedy clan as well as Nixon. It can be found here: https://web.archive.org/web/20020423000824/http://www.time.com/time/sampler/article/0,8599,232440,00.html and here’s the specific line paragraph: “”I’m more on the liberal side of things,” [George Lucas] says. “I grew up in San Francisco in the ‘60s, and my positions are sort of shaped by that ... If you look back 30 years ago, there were certain issues with the Kennedys, with Richard Nixon, that focused my interest.” Lucas’ own geopolitics can sound pretty bleak: “All democracies turn into dictatorships—but not by coup. The people give their democracy to a dictator, whether it’s Julius Caesar or Napoleon or Adolf Hitler. Ultimately, the general population goes along with the idea ... What kinds of things push people and institutions into this direction?””). Heck, Lucas alongside Bill Ayers is arguably one of the people responsible for ensuring Obama not only got elected, but also did a massive tax hike to ensure that “the rich don’t own government” or some garbage like that. Besides, I’m not entirely sure whether Khrushchev was satisfied with Cuba or not. Yes, his memoirs definitely indicated he was, but on the other hand, Ion Mihai Pacepa, a former DIE agent, relayed how his boss witnessed Khrushchev basically screaming they should kill the Viper in reference to JFK after Cuba, which implies he may have felt JFK did in fact humiliate him. You can find it here and at similar places like WND: https://www.scientiapress.com/kgb-kennedy"

Of course, you're citing individuals that (at the time) could not have held or won office in this country. Intellectuals tend to be especially odious, airing their deranged views from the comfort of their ivory towers and never to live under such systems. These Communist celebrities are equally as bad. Filthy rich, they got theirs, and the peons should be serving them. Of course, they'll never move to Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea to their utopias. George Lucas is so overrated, anyhow. Star Wars is just a rip-off of Flash Gordon. He couldn't secure the rights to making "Gordon", so he just reworked the story. Now the new movies are nothing more than SJW propaganda and garbage. But, yes, left-wingers have been making humanity miserable now for centuries, bathing the 20th century in oceans of blood. I learned that the left was never about solving problems, but perpetuating misery and chaos and dependency in order to keep themselves in power. How much further we'd be along as humanity were they never to have existed. "Eh, I don’t know about that. Some footage of Obama’s speeches during that time seemed to show very minimal people attending his speeches (though then again, they never bothered to pan up, so who knows). And besides, you have to admit, having nearly all of Obama’s winning states happen to be states that have no Voter ID laws comes across as suspect, and having no states with Voter ID laws that he won. That would point to voter fraud. That’s not even getting into how some places such as Philadelphia had far higher turnout for Obama than there were actual citizenry of that community."

Voter fraud for Democrats is as American as apple pie. But it the case of 2012, it obviously happened, but it didn't make any difference, since the outcome was already pre-determined.

"I’m assuming you mean Romney, because I definitely don’t recall him being called “Willard.” Plus, I’m pretty sure Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, and Rick Santorum were actual conservatives and not RINOs/leftists, if that’s what you’re implying."

You weren't here for the fun times a dozen years ago. I was watching Willard the Rat (or Slick Willard, Scum Willard, et al) from the time he was Governor. To say he was a disastrous Socialist Chief Executive would be an understatement. He put leftist pro-criminal judges on the bench, he supported the pro-gay marriage horror, and implemented the very model for ZeroCare complete with cheap abortions. He also killed the last vestiges of the GOP in the state. In other words, Willard was a perfect Democrat. He also was massively unpopular and fled the office before he lost reelection and handed it to a Black Communist (sound familiar ?). He moved far away to California. I knew a total megalomaniac and pathological liar like Willard would be a disaster for the country if he ran for or became President. Then again, he was content in three elections in a row to (#1, help undermine and backstab Gov. Palin when she became McQueeg's running mate. #2, Willfully and deliberately threw the 2012 election. #3, Personally recruited Egg McMuffin for 2016 to funnel votes away from Trump and elect Hillary). To say Willard is a treasonous scumbag would be an understatement. What damage he will inflict (or attempt to) as the new Senator from Utah to deliberately harm President Trump is the question. I would vote for the actual Democrat running against him to keep him from the Senate.

As for the other candidates you mentioned, they were all too weak. Herman Cain was obliterated as soon as they trotted out the hackneyed old Democrat dirty trick of "sexual harassment" (which was racist on its face). Santorum was second-tier and could not get the resources needed to run a serious race. The only reason he got the support he did was because nobody else running had any Conservative credibility. You had Huckster from Arkansas, but he was the Southern-fried Willard and a disaster as Governor and had zero credibility on immigration (he supported open borders and keeping Tyson factories chock-full of illegal slave labor). He also virtually destroyed the state GOP (indeed, his Democrat successor did more to help the AR GOP than Huckster). As for Newtie, he was a no-go. He was one of the most unpopular pols in the country, he never recovered from his time as Speaker. He folded like a cheap suit during the so-called gov't shutdown of 1995 and all but handed Bubba Clintoon his second term. Now while he would've run to win, he was too problematic to win. Rudy Giuliani was a possibility (and he did take down an incompetent Communist Black Mayor in his first term), but he was too left-wing on social issues and it didn't make sense that he'd appoint a Conservative government when he didn't believe in it. Why would you appoint people you disagree with ?

"Perhaps. I do know this much, though, Conservapedia and the Politically Incorrect Guide to the 1960s seemed fond of him, the latter far more fond of him than JFK by any stretch."

Adlai ? Probably because of the scene he made when he served as UN Ambassador under JFK (the "Don't wait for the translation !" he shouted at the Russian Ambassador). It was a great visual, but Adlai as President would've been the Peter Sellers caricature Merkin Muffley from "Dr. Strangelove."

"Oh, I fully agree with you there. Heck, if anything, I actually think we should have absolutely NO democracy at all, as when I think of democracy, I think of the French Revolution and its excesses, having anarchy and utter lawlessness as the closest thing to an order of the day, killing neighbors for a sheer laugh, and all of that. Or, to use a more contemporary reference, the episode of SEAL Team’s first season where Bravo Team has to evacuate an American embassy due to an uptick in riots in a Somalian region over election results. I believe the name of the episode was “Collapse.”

The folks that should participate in anything pertaining to "democracy" are those with skin in the game. The makers, not the takers. It's frightening to think Thomas Jefferson supported the French Revolution, which demonstrated the left in all its bloodthirsty glory. Of course, he supported us being an agrarian society, since when you end up with cities... well, we've seen what political cesspools they are with corrupt, statist and totalitarian leftist instincts and no diversity of opinion (or critical thinking).

"Even still, he definitely still came across as conservative, certainly a lot moreso than FDR ever did, and bear in mind, I’m no fan of JFK either. Besides, I can and have named plenty of people from around that time, including Americans, who were even FURTHER to the Left than JFK ever was, like for example Jean Paul Sartre (basically praised Che Guevara as the “most complete human being of the century”, not to mention had a hand in May 1968 and even got arrested and pardoned simply because, and I quote, “one does not arrest Voltaire.”), Michel Foucault (basically same deal as Sartre, only he basically advocated lynch mobs being the standard practice, and practically denounced any governmental systems, oh, and also never found a radical group he didn’t like), the Weathermen Underground, Malcolm X (heck, that guy outright celebrated JFK’s death), among others. Probably also George Lucas, as well."

Well, Malcolm X commented that JFK's assassination was like the chickens coming home to roost. Unlike MLK, who all but urged the Black poultry to go to the Democrat plantation of Colonel Sanders, Malcolm warned Blacks about voting Democrat. MLK was too much of an attention-seeker (and pleasure-seeker) to have done much positive in the long run, but it would've been curious to see where Malcolm would've been at had he not been assassinated. He at least urged Blacks NOT to depend on government, which was excellent advice. Once you become dependent, it's hard to break the habit (like alcohol or drugs). Democrats knew this and worked it to their advantage, and still to this day.

"Well, technically, if he were truly principled and courageous, he would have actually voted WITH Joe McCarthy, as siding against him and with the Democrat Party isn’t even close to courageous, let alone principled. And besides, by that logic, Che Guevara was “courageous and principled” for gunning down defenseless boys with a smile on his face, even when it’s very obvious that he was, aside from being sadistic, also a massive coward via his last moments in life where he pathetically begged for his life. Not voting is still ultimately more courageous than outright voting against Joe McCarthy and siding with the Democrat mob out of sheer peer pressure."

But the point was that he needed to show up and stand up and be counted. It's not courageous to dodge a key vote, it's cowardice.

"You and me both. Though JFK probably was the least bad of them, certainly he was a better man than Ted Kennedy at least. Had Ted Kennedy been there, he probably would have voted with the Democrats with a smile on his face as he watched McCarthy squirm at the betrayal."

I considered them all odious.

"Yes, it is indeed very fortunate that we got Trump at a time like this. Though I’m not entirely sure if it’s a result of too much democracy or that we even have democracy to begin with (like I said, the only thing I can think of with democracy is the excesses of the French Revolution, as well as similar events)."

He turned out a lot of people to vote for him that either wouldn't have voted or voted Democrat. Trump carried some counties that hadn't gone Republican in over 6 decades (places like Dubuque, Iowa, a Catholic area), even one county in WA state that last went GOP for President in 1928. A lot of working-class and industrial areas went hard for Trump. The GOP should unapologetically be a workers' party (take back that name from the Stalinists) and an empowerment party for the individual, not empowerment for bureaucrats, ultraleft nutters and elitists.

"Yeah, that’s one flaw with the Constitution (the other of course being that there was never an explicit accreditation to God himself). Good thing we have an amendment process, though."

Of course, the Constitution is being flagrantly violated on a daily basis.

"Agreed, we shouldn’t have let the left access those organs at all. Unfortunately, if we try to do anything about it, we’d get accused of destroying the Constitution. Besides, I personally blame Thomas Jefferson and his throwing his lot with the Jacobins, even when he obviously would have been aware of their more inhumane actions due to personally witnessing them during his time in France, and basically crafting that Adam and Eve letter voicing solidarity for those jerks. And he advocated for education, which is a large part of the reason we have this mess."

It's not education in itself that is the problem, it's indoctrination and failure to teach critical thinking. The big ed industry has become so thoroughly corrupted and needs be cleaned out from top to bottom.

"Either that, or having everyone behave chaotically and without ANY standards, kill their own friends for a sheer laugh, like the Jacobins or anarchists. Besides, I view God to be a massive control-freak and even a bit of a megalomaniac, and that’s mainly why I serve him, mostly due to outright fear and terror of him."

I wish God would be a bit more controlling, to be honest. Rid us of the cancers of our society. Of course, He operates on His schedule, not ours. Though if He controlled every little aspect, what would be the point of our existence ? How would we ever learn ? It'd be like your parents perpetually babysitting you throughout your life.

"Maybe he doesn’t have that power, but did he really have to imply he was going to keep Roe v. Wade as law of the land in that speech at New York? He could have at least mentioned trying to get some Justices included on the Supreme Court who are Originalists and also try to remove Roe v. Wade."

Technically, he would be telling the truth by saying as much. Unfortunately, even if Roe was jettisoned today, some states that enacted laws preceding the decision (NY being one) would still have legalized abortion.

"Yeah, which makes his complaints about his father being a Nazi even more of a problem, since he hated that bit about him. If I were him, I’d go very far to avoid being a Nazi like my father, to the extent that if anything I’d be closer to a libertarian if not a far-right Conservative, precisely BECAUSE I’d realize the Nazis and the Communists are the same thing."

Curiously, Ah-nold wasn't even initially planning on running in the recall of 2003. He was planning on recruiting the left-wing RINO ex-Mayor of Los Angeles, Tricky Dick Riordan. Riordan was mediocre and loved endorsing Democrats (such as Sen. Feinstein). He was obliterated when he tried to run in a Gubernatorial primary, exposed as the left-wing phony that he is. So Ah-nold went to have a one-on-one with Dicky and made the discovery that he was obviously senile and had rice pudding for brains (wasn't just the leftism that addled his brain). Conservative Tom McClintock was already in the running, and a mush-brained Riordan would've been toast, so Ah-nold himself got in and used deep pockets and the corrupt party establishment to buy the office out from under McClintock. It's sick and sad to see the state today, so far removed from the Golden State shine it had up until the early '90s. It's a feudal state now with anti-American politics and rampant corruption and never-ending spending, chasing the productive middle and working class people out. The shame of the nation.

113 posted on 11/01/2018 12:13:52 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“MLK was trained at the Highlander Folk School here in my state of TN. It was used to bring up Communist activists. He believed in massive federal government to resolve problems and thought the Communist system was a legitimate opposition system (he said as much on an interview with Merv Griffin). He may have sounded “Conservative” in some of his speeches (indeed, he plagiarized the speech of a Republican minister delivered to the GOP National Convention, “I Have A Dream”), but he was still very left wing and helped to lead 90%+ of Black voters onto the Democrat Plantation. The damage that has done to the Black community has been without equal, especially the destruction of the Black family.”

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that even a left-wing Christian with Communist sympathies would not denounce Communism to such an extent that he declares it incapable of being mixed together, like King did in this speech here: http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/can-a-christian-be-a-communist/. If anything, they’d basically delusionally believe they COULD be mixed together with zero issues. You know, like the priest who recruited Hillary Clinton into being taught by Saul Alinsky, or the Liberation Theology believers, or Pope Francis for that matter. Either way, that speech he made STILL made him far better than Jesse Jackson, who actually DID try to praise Cuba’s communist system every chance he got. Also helps that King’s niece is in fact pro life.

“Of course, you’re citing individuals that (at the time) could not have held or won office in this country. Intellectuals tend to be especially odious, airing their deranged views from the comfort of their ivory towers and never to live under such systems. These Communist celebrities are equally as bad. Filthy rich, they got theirs, and the peons should be serving them. Of course, they’ll never move to Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea to their utopias. George Lucas is so overrated, anyhow. Star Wars is just a rip-off of Flash Gordon. He couldn’t secure the rights to making “Gordon”, so he just reworked the story. Now the new movies are nothing more than SJW propaganda and garbage. But, yes, left-wingers have been making humanity miserable now for centuries, bathing the 20th century in oceans of blood. I learned that the left was never about solving problems, but perpetuating misery and chaos and dependency in order to keep themselves in power. How much further we’d be along as humanity were they never to have existed.”

Honestly, wanting to maintain power by any means necessary would probably be too kind a description for them. I personally think they’re more like the Joker from The Dark Knight, doing their actions solely so they can watch the world burn, not even CARE if they get caught in the crossfire and or have their actions backfire on them.

As far as Lucas, I heard a similar story regarding how Star Wars was made, only instead of him not getting the rights to a Flash Gordon film, it involved having his rights to Apocalypse Now taken away from him after THX-1138’s failure, not to mention his American Zoetrope studio shut down (personally, I think the story would have been worse, be very openly against the Vietnam War, even when compared to the uncut version of the film we did get). His basing the Rebels on the Vietcong and the Empire on America is pretty much the reason I root for the Empire right now, and I don’t generally root for villains nor do I even like to root for villains, that’s how badly I took that revelation. And from what I’ve read in PIG 1960s, the student radicals in America at least, many of whom being Red Diaper babies, managed to blackball school administrators into effectively letting them have complete air time with that so-called “Free Speech” movement.

You might want to make sure to address the bit about Khrushchev apparently throwing a tantrum in the aftermath of the CMC going by what Ion Mihai Pacepa stated, though. Even gave you a link to that earlier.

“Voter fraud for Democrats is as American as apple pie. But it the case of 2012, it obviously happened, but it didn’t make any difference, since the outcome was already pre-determined.”

True, the Democrats have done voter fraud as well, but you still have to admit that it seems suspicious that only the Voter ID states swung for Romney. Maybe if a Voter ID state swung for Obama, I’d probably consider the possibility that some were disgruntled about Romney and not think anything else was suspicious, but all going for Romney? Yeah, sorry, but I would suspect voter fraud on Obama’s end was responsible for the election victory on Obama’s end. And it wouldn’t surprise me either, since Chicago’s infamous for its voter fraud, doing it since at least the time Daly told people to “vote early, vote often”.

“You weren’t here for the fun times a dozen years ago. I was watching Willard the Rat (or Slick Willard, Scum Willard, et al) from the time he was Governor. To say he was a disastrous Socialist Chief Executive would be an understatement. He put leftist pro-criminal judges on the bench, he supported the pro-gay marriage horror, and implemented the very model for ZeroCare complete with cheap abortions. He also killed the last vestiges of the GOP in the state. In other words, Willard was a perfect Democrat. He also was massively unpopular and fled the office before he lost reelection and handed it to a Black Communist (sound familiar ?). He moved far away to California. I knew a total megalomaniac and pathological liar like Willard would be a disaster for the country if he ran for or became President. Then again, he was content in three elections in a row to (#1, help undermine and backstab Gov. Palin when she became McQueeg’s running mate. #2, Willfully and deliberately threw the 2012 election. #3, Personally recruited Egg McMuffin for 2016 to funnel votes away from Trump and elect Hillary). To say Willard is a treasonous scumbag would be an understatement. What damage he will inflict (or attempt to) as the new Senator from Utah to deliberately harm President Trump is the question. I would vote for the actual Democrat running against him to keep him from the Senate. “

Yeah, come to think of it, I definitely remember being irritated when I saw that list of celebrities who voiced support for Obama and Romney was among them. I did ultimately vote for Romney in the actual election, although only because I couldn’t just sit home, not when the alternative was letting Obama stay in office. Besides, he did have as his VP Paul Ryan, who was pro-life, so I figured that at least I’m getting someone who was pro-life in there. And honestly, had Randall Terry successfully ousted Obama for the nomination in 2012, I definitely would have considered voting for him back then (I’m technically independent, so I can in fact vote for any party I wish. Randall Terry is pretty much the only exception I’m willing to make regarding Democrats and voting for them since at least HE is proven to be staunchly pro-Life). And as far as third party candidates, that’s pretty much a joke. Why bother voting for a third party candidate when they’re not even going to win anyways. Comes across as a wasted vote anyway.

“As for the other candidates you mentioned, they were all too weak. Herman Cain was obliterated as soon as they trotted out the hackneyed old Democrat dirty trick of “sexual harassment” (which was racist on its face). Santorum was second-tier and could not get the resources needed to run a serious race. The only reason he got the support he did was because nobody else running had any Conservative credibility. You had Huckster from Arkansas, but he was the Southern-fried Willard and a disaster as Governor and had zero credibility on immigration (he supported open borders and keeping Tyson factories chock-full of illegal slave labor). He also virtually destroyed the state GOP (indeed, his Democrat successor did more to help the AR GOP than Huckster). As for Newtie, he was a no-go. He was one of the most unpopular pols in the country, he never recovered from his time as Speaker. He folded like a cheap suit during the so-called gov’t shutdown of 1995 and all but handed Bubba Clintoon his second term. Now while he would’ve run to win, he was too problematic to win. Rudy Giuliani was a possibility (and he did take down an incompetent Communist Black Mayor in his first term), but he was too left-wing on social issues and it didn’t make sense that he’d appoint a Conservative government when he didn’t believe in it. Why would you appoint people you disagree with ?”

Like I said, my initial, and preferred, choice was Rick Santorum. I only went with Romney because it was either him or Obama, and I sure as heck wasn’t voting for Obama (and if I sat out, it would effectively be the same as voting for Obama). In fact, the one person I definitely didn’t want to vote for in the GOP by any stretch was Ron Paul. Sure, maybe he’s got a point on economic issues, but everything else he’s so dead wrong that it would be like voting the Joker from Batman into the presidency, and he pretty much supported abortificants, something I’m unwilling to knowingly back in a candidate (would even avoid voting for a Republican if they backed it if I could help it).

“Adlai ? Probably because of the scene he made when he served as UN Ambassador under JFK (the “Don’t wait for the translation !” he shouted at the Russian Ambassador). It was a great visual, but Adlai as President would’ve been the Peter Sellers caricature Merkin Muffley from “Dr. Strangelove.”

I... didn’t even mention Adlai, so I don’t even know what you’re getting at there, because I referenced Conservapedia and the Politically Incorrect Guide to the 1960s in that thing you responded to, and about Ike, no less.

“The folks that should participate in anything pertaining to “democracy” are those with skin in the game. The makers, not the takers. It’s frightening to think Thomas Jefferson supported the French Revolution, which demonstrated the left in all its bloodthirsty glory. Of course, he supported us being an agrarian society, since when you end up with cities... well, we’ve seen what political cesspools they are with corrupt, statist and totalitarian leftist instincts and no diversity of opinion (or critical thinking).”

He unfortunately DID support those jerks. Even went as far as to write a letter voicing his support, as you can see here: https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/96oct/obrien/adam.htm In fact, it was his support of the French Revolution that was the main reason why John Adams and he basically broke off their friendship. Oh, and speaking of which, the book “Liberty: The God that Failed” by Christopher A. Ferrara gives quite a bit more detail about him. Did you know that Jefferson basically was a huge Big Government Ogre? Here’s a bulletpointed list in this link: http://distributistreview.com/liberty-god-that-failed/

“Well, Malcolm X commented that JFK’s assassination was like the chickens coming home to roost. Unlike MLK, who all but urged the Black poultry to go to the Democrat plantation of Colonel Sanders, Malcolm warned Blacks about voting Democrat. MLK was too much of an attention-seeker (and pleasure-seeker) to have done much positive in the long run, but it would’ve been curious to see where Malcolm would’ve been at had he not been assassinated. He at least urged Blacks NOT to depend on government, which was excellent advice. Once you become dependent, it’s hard to break the habit (like alcohol or drugs). Democrats knew this and worked it to their advantage, and still to this day.”

Maybe, but on the other hand, he also advocated for black revolts and separatist groups akin to the KKK, so he definitely was closer to the far left than MLK was even if he did advocate against government dependency. After all, the likes of Michel Foucault and Jean-Paul Sartre if anything demanded the extermination of government, the former even advocating for people to just engage in vigilante lynching, or as he put it, popular justice, like with the September Massacres, and you’d have to be blind to think that he wanted government, even basically stating that government was the same as a prison as well as, well, pretty much any job, private or public, being a prison, and last I checked, they were of the far left, not even close to conservative under either the American OR the European definition.

“But the point was that he needed to show up and stand up and be counted. It’s not courageous to dodge a key vote, it’s cowardice.”

Maybe, but then again, showing up, standing up, and being counted among Democrats while taking his time taking as much joy in destroying the career of a patriot who can barely even defend himself a’la Che Guevara and his execution squads against defenseless boys isn’t really courageous by any stretch either. In fact, I’d argue such is even MORE cowardly than simply not voting. At least by not voting, he technically still isn’t actually siding with the Democrats.

“I considered them all odious.”

Honestly, I think them all odious too. But here’s the thing, I think of ALL people, myself included, as odious for doing even one bad thing, and if I go by that line of thinking... well, let’s just say my views would be more likely to just ensure no human remains alive (myself included), or even this planet Earth, so I HAVE to try and look for even small positives in order to not do to the world what Kefka did in FFVI out of a fit of nihilism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-cdwDnryY0

“He turned out a lot of people to vote for him that either wouldn’t have voted or voted Democrat. Trump carried some counties that hadn’t gone Republican in over 6 decades (places like Dubuque, Iowa, a Catholic area), even one county in WA state that last went GOP for President in 1928. A lot of working-class and industrial areas went hard for Trump. The GOP should unapologetically be a workers’ party (take back that name from the Stalinists) and an empowerment party for the individual, not empowerment for bureaucrats, ultraleft nutters and elitists. “

Well, to be fair, speaking as someone who IS Catholic since childhood when my mom returned to the Church, I voted for McCain, Santorum, Romney, Ben Carson, and Donald Trump, and have generally voted Republican (mostly because there’s more chance of them actually repealing Roe v. Wade than the Democrats), and 2008 was actually my first presidential vote (before then, the only other time I might have voted was during the vote for Dunwoody to become a City).

“Of course, the Constitution is being flagrantly violated on a daily basis.”

No kidding, and it’s been that way since at the very least when Earl Warren was put on the Supreme Court, arguably even before that when FDR threatened to pack the court.

“It’s not education in itself that is the problem, it’s indoctrination and failure to teach critical thinking. The big ed industry has become so thoroughly corrupted and needs be cleaned out from top to bottom.”

I wish I could believe you regarding education in itself not being the problem. Really, I do. Unfortunately, after the likes of Voltaire and Diderot managed to take over the French Academy and basically used that to basically indoctrinate loads of literate people in France down to and including the peasant class into thinking Christians were bad, leading directly to the French Revolution (this part you can read about from Timothy Dwight’s 1799 speech to the Yale Graduates of Independence Day of that year recapping how the French Revolution happened), heck, Jean-Jacques Rousseau practically FOUNDING Education, or at least what we know of it today via his Emile book, I definitely have to blame Education itself for it. Based on my experiences, heck, even doing some independent research that had me learning that Rousseau and Voltaire are effectively responsible for the sorry state of education right now, if not responsible for education itself, it’s better off just being destroyed, reduced to rubble, not even BOTHER fixing it (besides, the leftist radicals also claimed to be working to fix education back during the 1960s, and they invariably made it worse). By keeping it, we have brainwashing and indoctrination. Is it bleak, yes, but unfortunately, it is what it is. One article has even implied that this rot has been going on since the 19th century. Here, read for yourself: https://www.theblaze.com/contributions/why-liberals-think-being-educated-means-being-liberal

“I wish God would be a bit more controlling, to be honest. Rid us of the cancers of our society. Of course, He operates on His schedule, not ours. Though if He controlled every little aspect, what would be the point of our existence ? How would we ever learn ? It’d be like your parents perpetually babysitting you throughout your life.”

Sometimes I wonder if that is the case, that he’s not controlling. As far as I can tell, God’s essentially a combination of the Patriots from MGS2 (https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA; https://youtu.be/mrVThXFnE1s ), the Architect from The Matrix Reloaded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dij287EZT50 ), and Kefka from Final Fantasy VI. Have to think that way since he’s omnipotent and omniscient, not to mention omnipresent, meaning he can’t be stupid, weak, or anything like that. Even if it’s a bleak view of God, it’s still what I think of as God, especially after Raiders of the Lost Ark.

“Technically, he would be telling the truth by saying as much. Unfortunately, even if Roe was jettisoned today, some states that enacted laws preceding the decision (NY being one) would still have legalized abortion.”

Then we need to find a way to ensure the states DON’T retain those abortion laws. For goodness sakes, the Founding Fathers actually had state laws that banned pornographic material before Earl Warren with his Memoirs v. Massachusetts ruling pretty much gutted those laws.

“Curiously, Ah-nold wasn’t even initially planning on running in the recall of 2003. He was planning on recruiting the left-wing RINO ex-Mayor of Los Angeles, Tricky Dick Riordan. Riordan was mediocre and loved endorsing Democrats (such as Sen. Feinstein). He was obliterated when he tried to run in a Gubernatorial primary, exposed as the left-wing phony that he is. So Ah-nold went to have a one-on-one with Dicky and made the discovery that he was obviously senile and had rice pudding for brains (wasn’t just the leftism that addled his brain). Conservative Tom McClintock was already in the running, and a mush-brained Riordan would’ve been toast, so Ah-nold himself got in and used deep pockets and the corrupt party establishment to buy the office out from under McClintock. It’s sick and sad to see the state today, so far removed from the Golden State shine it had up until the early ‘90s. It’s a feudal state now with anti-American politics and rampant corruption and never-ending spending, chasing the productive middle and working class people out. The shame of the nation.”

Darn shame what happened there. Then again, a lot of the leftist jerks who did the student protests and all of that definitely had the golden sunshine gradually removed (heck, Governor Brown during the 1960s literally let riots occur non-stop at Los Angeles and clearly let them spread to other places), so while Arnold may not have been responsible for losing its sunshine, he certainly didn’t help restore it.


114 posted on 11/01/2018 4:56:30 PM PDT by otness_e
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