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“He didn’t just run as the “Black Man”, but as the alternative to a damaged and divisive Hillary. He won the general election in both instances because neither Republican running were attempting to win, indeed, they were outright ringers who sought to prevent Conservative opposition to Zero. “

Well, he certainly ran as the so-called “First Black President” back in 2008, I can tell you THAT much (and I voted for McCain and Romney, both times mostly because it was either them or Obama. Heck, Romney wasn’t even my first choice, it was Rick Santorum (mostly because he showed the most promise of repealing Roe v. Wade).

“JFK was notoriously opportunistic and cunning. Look at the fraud that was perpetrated in then-Democrat West Virginia in the primaries in a state that was pretty stridently anti-Catholic. Then-Sen. Hubert Humphrey should’ve won there in 1960 and fraud and payoffs stripped him of a key win. Look, too, that Mr. Civil Rights told his celebrity pal Sammy Davis, Jr. not to marry White actress May Britt lest it hurt him at the polls. And yet so many Black households have a portrait of JFK hanging in a place of prominence next to MLK. These are just two more examples. I just don’t know what you’re trying to squeeze out of JFK to look statesmanlike or “Conservative.” He was an opportunist of the highest order who used fraud and deceit to rise to power, and the damage he ultimately inflicted (and his family) in office and then turning him into a great martyr, has caused this nation most grievously.”

Yeah, unfortunately, I’m very much aware of that. Heck, I’m even aware that Martin Luther King Jr. was investigated by the FBI under JFK as well. And yes, he was duplicituous as well, never even said or implied he was even a good president. I was just saying he still held to some conservative principles like love of country and all of that shebang. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama don’t even make it a secret that they outright hated America, heck, George Lucas didn’t even make it a secret he hated America in 1973 or earlier (and yes, I know he isn’t an actual elected official, but he HAS done political stuff before, so he ultimately still counts).

“Nixon merely tried to co-opt some left-wing causes, which was a huge mistake. His time to have served as President should’ve been from 1961-1969. I absolutely believe a President Nixon during that period would’ve drastically changed the country for the better. Fidel would’ve been removed, Khruschev could not have gotten the upper hand on Nixon, and the approach in Vietnam would’ve been different and likely resolved much more quickly. Nixon also probably wouldn’t have embarked on a crazy massive government scheme like Great Society. BTW, as for Eisenhower, I think he was a disaster for the Republicans. He was at heart a left-winger and raised by a Socialist father. He didn’t take the Soviet infiltration of our government and institutions seriously and allowed the Democrats to grab 2/3rds of the Congress in 1958 and didn’t lift a finger to help Nixon. It took over 2 decades to regain the Senate and 4 for the House thanks to Eisenhower and enabled JFK and LBJ to pursue massive government schemes.”

Hey, I’m pretty much in agreement with you regarding Nixon that he probably would have made a better president (though that being said, I did hear that allegedly, Nixon or at least his campaign staff may have cheated in Illinois. That’s what TVTropes said under “Vote Early, Vote Often”, and that that was part of the reason he didn’t bother contesting the questionable results. Note that I never added it in, I only added the bit about Nixon being honorable enough to not question the ballot box for the sake of continuity, someone else added in the bit about him or at least his campaign staff possibly committing voter fraud). I’m not sure I entirely agree with you regarding Ike, though. He certainly took the Soviets more seriously than FDR did, where he if anything cozied on up with the likes of Stalin, far beyond what was necessary to win World War II and even compared him positively to Great Britain, claiming the USSR wasn’t Imperialist (well, gee, knowing what the USSR truly was like, I’d probably prefer an “Imperialist” country like the USSR to a Communist one). And besides, I heard that part of the reason why he simply let the Soviets launch Sputnik first was because the alternative was to have global Soviet-orchestrated protests if we did it first in a clear temper tantrum over getting second place compared to us, so there were some foreign policy issues about that (and either way, we outclassed the Soviets technologically and militarily. Probably the only part they were actually a threat at was espionage). And to be fair, he did acknowledge adding Brennan and Warren to the Supreme Court was a mistake, so he deserves credit there.

“But he never was ideally Conservative or Conservative, which is the whole point here. He was grossly incompetent and in over his head. He was aided by a corrupt leftist big media establishment to cover up his messes.”

Like I said, I agree he’s not ideally conservative. But he certainly was far more Conservative than FDR ever was. At least he actually ATTEMPTED to fight off Communism, even backed up McCarthy when the odds were against him. I’ve seen plenty of Democrat politicians sell out their supposed constituencies simply in favor of leftist causes, in far less time as well, even those who have built up a massive reputation of being something they really weren’t. Besides, I’m pretty sure even the corrupt media (which had been corrupt since Lippmann basically did his “Public Opinion” thing) would turn on JFK on a dime if he even remotely considers fighting Cuba or the Vietcong. Heck, the leftist media actually turned against LBJ after the Tet Offensive (remember, it was Walter Cronkite’s treasonous report that convinced LBJ to basically not run for reelection, thinking middle America turned against him, and he was very far to the left [well, not as far as Clinton or Obama, even LBJ loved his country, while those two clearly didn’t, but still pretty far to the left]. And we later get a redo of what the corrupt media would do to future presidents with Watergate and Nixon. That’s also why I’m pretty sure LBJ wouldn’t have needed to assassinate JFK to get his spot, just do something similar to Monica Lewinsky and leak to the press, after “ensuring their cooperation”, exposing that JFK slept with an East German Spy, and they’d oust JFK.).

“Truman was never a serious anti-Communist. His failures to deal with Korea and China in a decisive and unapologetic manner left us with all the Asian fiascoes for decades to come, right up to today. Truman and MacArthur could’ve deposed Mao for Chiang, which would’ve been an instant ally for the U.S., no Kim family horror in the Koreas, no base to provide help for a Communist North Vietnam. The Soviets would’ve been hemmed in. We should’ve had a President Patton elected in 1948. He’d have eliminated all those threats and dealt very firmly with the Soviets. I doubt he also would’ve sat back and allowed a Soviet infiltration of our institutions, either.”

Oh, I fully agree with you there that Patton was the better choice. Heck, we probably should have had someone other than FDR who was the closest we ever had to a ruler for life do things. I was just saying Truman selling out MacArthur and to a certain extent McCarthy didn’t impact his reputation of being a hardline anti-Communist that’s being taught in schools to this day. And believe me, if Truman could do that with his reputation intact, I’m pretty sure JFK could do the same and backstab McCarthy.

“He wasn’t going to take the risk. He was trying to have it both ways.”

Eh, I don’t know, Truman definitely seemed awfully eager to risk losing reelection and royally tick off his (non-Communist) base to basically tar and feather McCarthy, not to mention Whittaker Chambers, for trying to expose actual Communist threats.

“Sadly, since the 1960s, reviewing the political/social pathology of the Black community in what they can tolerate from left-wing politicians could fill books. Not all groups were as masochistic against their own interests. Trump is the first Republican President in the post-1960 period actively working to break them free of that horrific voting habit.”

Yeah, and I give Trump a whole lot of credit for breaking them free. I’m just noting the tendency for them to continue backing the same guys who bite their hands every time. Heck, not even LBJ’s remark on the plane was enough to dissuade them from voting Democrat, and in most movies, someone saying that kind of thing in front of people just have their reputations tarnished beyond repair, lose out on a whole lot. Besides, its not just blacks that are impacted by this (I’m not even going to bother covering Catholics since you already mentioned them). Jews continue voting in droves for Democrats despite the fact that they not only constantly stab them in the back recently, but even FDR, their hero, pretty much refused to let them entry in the leadup to World War II when they were obviously trying to escape from the Nazis due to fears that they were Fascist plants (in fact, ironically, the guys he DID let in, the Frankfurt School, turned out to be people even WORSE than the Nazis), with several even fearing that Trump and his staff were Nazis, even claiming one keynote speaker gave the Hitler salute thanks to some editing from ABC (and I’d know this because one of the people at my think tank actually DID relay this to me). And don’t get me started on how the Japanese/Asians seem to vote Democrat even after the whole Internment Camps that were made under FDR’s watch, who last I checked was a Democrat, and far left at that (well, at the very least, George Takei continues backing Democrats, even AFTER the whole Internment Camp issue). And don’t get me started on the latino stuff either and how so many of them seem to back Democrats even when it obviously is not in their best interest to do so (as the Latino Caucus demonstrated time and again, up to and including one of Trump’s state of the union addresses where they failed to give credit where credit was due regarding actually putting latinos to work). All that taken into account, it really IS a miracle that Trump manage to avert a Hillary Clinton presidency. And for that, I’m truly grateful.

“They all were doing so. These left-wingers were more worried about threats to their livelihoods and being exposed as Soviet sympathizers, so they had to go all out to destroy McCarthy and those of like-mind. These were never newscasters or journalists, they were leftist propagandists. Just as dangerous then as now, with the exception that they were seen as more trustworthy then because few outlets could expose these individuals.”

Yeah, I agree with you there, they certainly were dangerous. In fact, I’d even argue they were dangerous since I guess the 1920s after Walter Lippmann wrote his Public Opinion tract. I think Arnie Pyle’s probably one of the few journalists during that time who WASN’T a committed leftist. Too bad he died...

“I never said they weren’t “politicians” of a different sort, but that they’re not elected officials. Some would have to behave in a different manner if they were elected. Outside of extreme-left areas, these folks would have a hard time getting elected in mainstream areas.”

Maybe not, but on the other hand, Ed Asner did in fact moderate a presidential debate in 2016, so I’m not too sure about that. And besides, I know that Martin Sheen absolutely refused to back Barack Obama due to his abortion stance. That would have most likely resulted in him being denounced by his own Democrat party knowing how utterly totalitarian they were. Read about it here: https://www.irishcentral.com/news/martin-sheen-opens-up-about-his-strong-anti-abortion-views-120000529-237382661 Seeing him actually refuse to back Barack Obama would make me think he probably wouldn’t breach from that bit regardless of what the party thinks.

“Of course I know, and all too well. They’ve practiced the “McCarthyism” they’ve accused of the right since the 1950s. They’ve all but purged any sane center-right people and forced the rest into remaining quiet, lest they lose their livelihoods. The Blacklist is very real for right-thinking people.”

Yeah, I’m far too aware of that. Heck, it’s even real for those in education. Had to put up or shut up regarding my views at college, and I nearly got brainwashed there.

“Unfortunately, most people don’t know who Chetwynd is. A lot of Americans, especially mainstream ones, no longer pay any mind to the leftist causes celebrities endorse. They don’t have the pull they once did. They’ve also generally managed to piss off half their fan base as a result. All that polarization is on them. They made that. They keep pushing it, and they’re going to find themselves even more unpopular than ever. When celebutard Taylor Swift decided to open her mouth and weigh in on Tennessee politics, for which she knows nothing about, sounding off like some Stalinist nutter, it permanently damaged her standing with many of her fans and actually inflicted damage to the Democrat candidate she was supporting for Senator, and he dropped 10% in the polls right after. Hollyweird celeb endorsements now are the kiss of death in flyover country.”

I know who he is, largely because I watched him and Roger Simon on PJTV’s Poliwood. I’m pretty sure there are still some right-wing celebrities, though. Brooke Anne Smith probably qualifies as one (note that I said “probably”), since she does mention how freedom isn’t free (I simply cannot imagine a leftist saying that), that she supports our military, and supports the second amendment (those are definitely stuff leftists do not support) in her twitter and Instagram pages. In fact, probably the only thing she actually supports that might qualify as leftist is gay marriage at one point, though I suspect based on correspondence with her that that may have been mandated by the higher ups and out of her hands (she effectively stated when you’re given a script to do a role, you don’t exactly have much options but to perform to it). To be honest, I’m actually surprised she even mentioned gun rights and the military in a positive manner there, especially considering how leftist Hollywood would not tolerate positive depictions of such. There’s also Jodi Benson (aka, the voice of Ariel from Disney’s The Little Mermaid), who is a committed Christian, and based on some comments on IMDb back when they had actual comment pages, she also is against Gay Marriage. Kelsey Grammar and Mel Gibson, heck, Clint Eastwood as well, definitely qualified as Conservative. But I do agree with you that the vast majority of the celebrities were far-left, unfortunately. And hopefully it IS a kiss of death at this point, but we shall wait and see.

"Well, he certainly ran as the so-called “First Black President” back in 2008, I can tell you THAT much (and I voted for McCain and Romney, both times mostly because it was either them or Obama. Heck, Romney wasn’t even my first choice, it was Rick Santorum (mostly because he showed the most promise of repealing Roe v. Wade)."

He wasn't the first to run. You had Je$$e Jack$on back in 1984 and Amb. Alan Keyes, too. 2008 and 2012 was the absolute nadir of the GOP when it came to Presidential candidate, the worst trash and most deceitful rose to the top. Competent leaders didn't bother to run as they didn't want them and their families gang-raped by the media. Zero should've been easily defeated, and could've been with a candidate willing to run a tough race. As we found out, Willard and McQueeg were there to help elect him and play the role of gracious loser. Santorum was second-tier with respect to his viability. His bad loss for a 3rd term in PA in 2006 didn't help, either.

"Yeah, unfortunately, I’m very much aware of that. Heck, I’m even aware that Martin Luther King Jr. was investigated by the FBI under JFK as well. And yes, he was duplicituous as well, never even said or implied he was even a good president. I was just saying he still held to some conservative principles like love of country and all of that shebang. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama don’t even make it a secret that they outright hated America, heck, George Lucas didn’t even make it a secret he hated America in 1973 or earlier (and yes, I know he isn’t an actual elected official, but he HAS done political stuff before, so he ultimately still counts)."

Though, as I've laid out, I never would call those "conservative principles." It was pure love of power and to carry out the family desire of installing a Kennedy in the White House. It was supposed to be Joe, Sr., but his death in WW2 prevented that from happening (who knows how he would've been, but if his brothers were any indication, someone who should not have been near power). I think there was some hatred of country at work in the psyche of the Kennedys, because as Irish Catholics, they were seen as not being able to have the same entree into the halls of power and privilege as with WASPs. It was a "Well, we'll show them !" More like revenge.

"Hey, I’m pretty much in agreement with you regarding Nixon that he probably would have made a better president (though that being said, I did hear that allegedly, Nixon or at least his campaign staff may have cheated in Illinois. That’s what TVTropes said under “Vote Early, Vote Often”, and that that was part of the reason he didn’t bother contesting the questionable results. Note that I never added it in, I only added the bit about Nixon being honorable enough to not question the ballot box for the sake of continuity, someone else added in the bit about him or at least his campaign staff possibly committing voter fraud)."

Whatever went on in IL in GOP areas was nothing compared to the Democrat-mafia corruption in Chicago. We already saw how much fraud went on in WV to deliver the state over Humphrey, and that was just in a Democrat primary. IL was not the only state where that fraud was going on. Texas was another, and LBJ was very skilled at fixing elections, especially the infamous 1948 Democrat Senate primary against Gov. Coke Stevenson. Stevenson, a Conservative Tory, was the actual winner, but the national Dems refused to overturn the corrupt returns.

"I’m not sure I entirely agree with you regarding Ike, though. He certainly took the Soviets more seriously than FDR did, where he if anything cozied on up with the likes of Stalin, far beyond what was necessary to win World War II and even compared him positively to Great Britain, claiming the USSR wasn’t Imperialist (well, gee, knowing what the USSR truly was like, I’d probably prefer an “Imperialist” country like the USSR to a Communist one). And besides, I heard that part of the reason why he simply let the Soviets launch Sputnik first was because the alternative was to have global Soviet-orchestrated protests if we did it first in a clear temper tantrum over getting second place compared to us, so there were some foreign policy issues about that (and either way, we outclassed the Soviets technologically and militarily. Probably the only part they were actually a threat at was espionage). And to be fair, he did acknowledge adding Brennan and Warren to the Supreme Court was a mistake, so he deserves credit there."

There's little positive I can say about Eisenhower given the damage he inflicted to the party. I would've supported Robert Taft, Sr. in 1952 (his running mate was going to be Gen. Douglas MacArthur). Another sadly little-known fact about Eisenhower is that his operatives went into the South and destroyed the biracial coalitions in control of local party apparatii (supporting Taft) and replaced them with all-White Ike sycophants. That would partly result within a decade of many newly-enfranchised Southern Blacks going almost entirely to the Democrats, whereas prior to that, they were able to participate in GOP politics. Taft would've nationally brought back Black voters into the GOP (he was highly regarded by Blacks in his support of Civil Rights). Unfortunately for Taft, he still would've died of cancer in 1953, and would've been replaced by MacArthur. I think MacArthur (like Patton) would've made a superb President and would've been unapologetic in foreign policy against domestic enemies. He wouldn't have thrown Sen. McCarthy under the bus, either. Eisenhower was just too plain Establishment and refused to dismantle two decades of Socialist Democrat Big "Gubmint" policies, which should've been done from day #1. He set the standard for promises of GOP politicians claiming they would scale back government, only to leave it larger than ever before. No GOP President since Warren Harding has drastically cut government, taxes and spending taking over from a Dem administration. Almost 100 years. Even President Trump hasn't been able to do that.

"Like I said, I agree he’s not ideally conservative. But he certainly was far more Conservative than FDR ever was."

FDR was simply a dictator. But there hasn't been any "Conservative" Democrat to serve as President since Bourbonite Grover Cleveland was last elected in 1892. Since 1896, there has only been two occasions when non-liberals were nominated: Judge Alton Parker in 1904 (he was a moderate) and former Wilson Solicitor-General and Amb. to the UK John W. Davis in 1924. At no point other than for those two has a non-liberal leftist been nominated, and that includes JFK. JFK was never not an ideal "Conservative" because he never was a "Conservative" in any way. He believed in using the government to achieve his ends, same as FDR and virtually every Democrat. That's the definition of anti-Conservative.

"At least he actually ATTEMPTED to fight off Communism, even backed up McCarthy when the odds were against him."

But he left McCarthy to twist in the wind in 1954. He could've stepped up and repudiated the attacks and burnished some "Conservative" bonafides. Instead, he made sure he was out of the Senate so he didn't have to vote. That was cowardice.

"I’ve seen plenty of Democrat politicians sell out their supposed constituencies simply in favor of leftist causes, in far less time as well, even those who have built up a massive reputation of being something they really weren’t. Besides, I’m pretty sure even the corrupt media (which had been corrupt since Lippmann basically did his “Public Opinion” thing) would turn on JFK on a dime if he even remotely considers fighting Cuba or the Vietcong. Heck, the leftist media actually turned against LBJ after the Tet Offensive (remember, it was Walter Cronkite’s treasonous report that convinced LBJ to basically not run for reelection, thinking middle America turned against him, and he was very far to the left [well, not as far as Clinton or Obama, even LBJ loved his country, while those two clearly didn’t, but still pretty far to the left]. And we later get a redo of what the corrupt media would do to future presidents with Watergate and Nixon. That’s also why I’m pretty sure LBJ wouldn’t have needed to assassinate JFK to get his spot, just do something similar to Monica Lewinsky and leak to the press, after “ensuring their cooperation”, exposing that JFK slept with an East German Spy, and they’d oust JFK.)."

But frankly, JFK did sell out his constituencies. He pretended to be a stalwart defender of traditional Catholic values, and we know how phony that was. There just wasn't anything admirable about him. Just another in a long line of power-hungry aspirants who've inspired the same, and that includes Clinton and Zero.

"Oh, I fully agree with you there that Patton was the better choice. Heck, we probably should have had someone other than FDR who was the closest we ever had to a ruler for life do things. I was just saying Truman selling out MacArthur and to a certain extent McCarthy didn’t impact his reputation of being a hardline anti-Communist that’s being taught in schools to this day. And believe me, if Truman could do that with his reputation intact, I’m pretty sure JFK could do the same and backstab McCarthy."

The mistake that led to FDR was nominating and electing a former Wilson Progressive in Herbert Hoover in 1928. We should've gone with Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon instead. Mellon was arguably the greatest individual to have held that office. He was hated with a burning passion by FDR, and that made him magnificent in my book. I think Mellon would've pursued a course that kept 1929 to just a "panic." Hoover set the course for using government interference in economic affairs that was exploded beyond belief under FDR and helped create a whole dependency class (his policies contributed greatly to enslaving Blacks to welfare and making them permanent Democrat slaves). Even FDR's first VP, Cactus Jack Garner, who was center-right, would've been a superior President, but because Garner was merely being used for Southern votes, the left-wing party wasn't about to let the guy supplant FDR in 1940 (they installed flakey pro-Soviet Henry Wallace). When Truman supplanted Wallace in 1944, he wasn't even FDR's preferred choice, he wanted the equally flakey and ultraleft loon Wild Bill Douglas from the Supreme Court. I guess the upside would've been a President Wallace or Douglas would've likely lost in 1944 or 1948 after FDR died. Of course, Gov. Dewey would've been about as subpar as Eisenhower (his 1944 running mate would've made a better President, Conservative OH Gov. John Bricker).

"Eh, I don’t know, Truman definitely seemed awfully eager to risk losing reelection and royally tick off his (non-Communist) base to basically tar and feather McCarthy, not to mention Whittaker Chambers, for trying to expose actual Communist threats."

McCarthy wasn't a nationally known figure in 1948, so he wasn't a real target of Truman's in that election. Truman knew he was going to lose had he run in 1952, one reason he tried to persuade Ike to run as a Democrat (too bad he didn't -- if Ike had done to the Democrats what he did to the GOP, the Republicans would've had a supermajority at the end of his regime). Truman was in over his head, anyhow. His 1949-53 term was a complete fiasco.

"Yeah, and I give Trump a whole lot of credit for breaking them free."

Trying to, but we won't know if it works until we see the election results.

"I’m just noting the tendency for them to continue backing the same guys who bite their hands every time. Heck, not even LBJ’s remark on the plane was enough to dissuade them from voting Democrat, and in most movies, someone saying that kind of thing in front of people just have their reputations tarnished beyond repair, lose out on a whole lot."

As I said, it's a whole pathology that has taken decades to ingrain.

"Besides, its not just blacks that are impacted by this (I’m not even going to bother covering Catholics since you already mentioned them). Jews continue voting in droves for Democrats despite the fact that they not only constantly stab them in the back recently, but even FDR, their hero, pretty much refused to let them entry in the leadup to World War II when they were obviously trying to escape from the Nazis due to fears that they were Fascist plants (in fact, ironically, the guys he DID let in, the Frankfurt School, turned out to be people even WORSE than the Nazis), with several even fearing that Trump and his staff were Nazis, even claiming one keynote speaker gave the Hitler salute thanks to some editing from ABC (and I’d know this because one of the people at my think tank actually DID relay this to me)."

Sadly, many American Jews are not devout practitioners of their religion. They wear the label of heritage, but their religion now is Socialism/Communism. If you see some of the writings of the latter individuals, the derangement is off the charts. They think Trump = Hitler or worse. This is a mental illness and soul sickness. You can't reason with people that think that way. If you swapped out these fake Jews for Israeli Jews, support for Trump would be 3/4ths or higher.

"And don’t get me started on how the Japanese/Asians seem to vote Democrat even after the whole Internment Camps that were made under FDR’s watch, who last I checked was a Democrat, and far left at that (well, at the very least, George Takei continues backing Democrats, even AFTER the whole Internment Camp issue)."

Although it varies with some Asians, unfortunately many in this country support a generous social welfare system, why many vote Democrat. If only they voted more like Vietnamese-Americans.

"And don’t get me started on the latino stuff either and how so many of them seem to back Democrats even when it obviously is not in their best interest to do so (as the Latino Caucus demonstrated time and again, up to and including one of Trump’s state of the union addresses where they failed to give credit where credit was due regarding actually putting latinos to work). All that taken into account, it really IS a miracle that Trump manage to avert a Hillary Clinton presidency. And for that, I’m truly grateful."

Latino groups vary, too. Sadly, many of the ones in urban California support the Marxist Atzlan interests, open borders loons. Curiously, the ones who are farmers in the Central Valley are far less so and will consider voting Republican (the actor/comedian Paul Rodriguez, once an outspoken far-leftist, took up their cause on water issues and became a Conservative, which all but made him vanish from Hollywood). Latinos in Texas vary, too. Same for Florida (unfortunately, many Cubans in the generations removed from Castro have been trending leftward - the Cuban GOP Congressmembers are uniformally awful, very left-wing now. They were center-right 20 years ago). I personally hope they get supplanted by Venezuelans, who are very anti-leftist.

"Maybe not, but on the other hand, Ed Asner did in fact moderate a presidential debate in 2016, so I’m not too sure about that. And besides, I know that Martin Sheen absolutely refused to back Barack Obama due to his abortion stance. That would have most likely resulted in him being denounced by his own Democrat party knowing how utterly totalitarian they were. Read about it here: https://www.irishcentral.com/news/martin-sheen-opens-up-about-his-strong-anti-abortion-views-120000529-237382661 Seeing him actually refuse to back Barack Obama would make me think he probably wouldn’t breach from that bit regardless of what the party thinks."

Of course, Asner is a Stalinist. Mary Tyler Moore was trying to moderate him, but now that she's gone... But Martin Sheen has little pull anymore, so he can be viewed as anachronistic.

"Yeah, I’m far too aware of that. Heck, it’s even real for those in education. Had to put up or shut up regarding my views at college, and I nearly got brainwashed there."

I'm self-educated. I'm too outspoken to have put up with that leftist crap. I'd have been a lightning rod on campus.

"I know who he is, largely because I watched him and Roger Simon on PJTV’s Poliwood. I’m pretty sure there are still some right-wing celebrities, though. Brooke Anne Smith probably qualifies as one (note that I said “probably”), since she does mention how freedom isn’t free (I simply cannot imagine a leftist saying that), that she supports our military, and supports the second amendment (those are definitely stuff leftists do not support) in her twitter and Instagram pages. In fact, probably the only thing she actually supports that might qualify as leftist is gay marriage at one point, though I suspect based on correspondence with her that that may have been mandated by the higher ups and out of her hands (she effectively stated when you’re given a script to do a role, you don’t exactly have much options but to perform to it). To be honest, I’m actually surprised she even mentioned gun rights and the military in a positive manner there, especially considering how leftist Hollywood would not tolerate positive depictions of such. There’s also Jodi Benson (aka, the voice of Ariel from Disney’s The Little Mermaid), who is a committed Christian, and based on some comments on IMDb back when they had actual comment pages, she also is against Gay Marriage. Kelsey Grammar and Mel Gibson, heck, Clint Eastwood as well, definitely qualified as Conservative. But I do agree with you that the vast majority of the celebrities were far-left, unfortunately. And hopefully it IS a kiss of death at this point, but we shall wait and see."

I don't know who Brooke Anne Smith is. Some of the others that are Conservatives are very-little known, others no longer care and are able to keep working, but it's not many. James Woods is outspoken on Twitter now, but he acknowledges now they won't employ him in Hollywood. I remember Ah-nold Schwarzenpecker was cited as a "Hollywood Conservative", but as we know from his ghastly turn as Governor, he was a devout Socialist who wanted to purge every center-right political figure out of the CA GOP. I warned folks here on FR 15 years ago how bad he would be, and he turned out even worse. Nothing like having Democrats and Communists wrecking the GOP from within (why many were panicked that Trump might be yet another of those, which it turned out wasn't true, fortunately).