Posted on 05/24/2018 8:10:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
Think about this – a significant portion of our country, including a majority of its elite, thinks that it’s A-OK for a Democrat administration to spy on a Republican candidate. Think hard about that. And think about whether or not we can ever put the pieces of our shattered republic back together again if we can’t even agree that using government power against our political enemies is a bad thing.
But the terrifying truth is that liberals and their Never Trump enablers actually think this kind of tyranny is a good thing. You see, they think Normal Americans are so transcendently awful (and, even more importantly, that the elite’s power so precious) that all is fair in order to stifle their opponents’ collective voice.
Yeah, I know they have reasons and excuses and elaborate theories about why it was absolutely necessary for a Democrat administration to spy on its designated replacement’s Republican opponent. And it was also totally cool for the IRS to suppress uppity Tea Party groups because they were getting to successful.
Excuses are always garbage, and theirs are garbage on fire in a dumpster. They know it. Offering them is just going through the motions. They are willing to embrace these tactics because they can.
The question all boils down to this – is it acceptable for the party in power to use the intelligence and law enforcement communities against its rivals? Are these convoluted and often delusional explanations – RUSSIANS TREASON OK NO RUSSIANS THEN UH QATARIS YEAH QATARIS TREASON! – enough to take that step, even if true?
Of course not. Even if Trump’s people sought to get the Russians to release the contents of the emails Hillary Clinton should never have had on her literally “password“ password-protected illegal server – and after two years, there’s zero evidence they did –was that enough to send spies into the campaign, to tap its phones, and leverage the power of FBI et ceterea to surveil them? Does the liberal elite have any concern that maybe, just maybe, it has to be about as serious a situation as you can get to do that? Is a coordinated campaign by the FBI backed up by the NSA and probably the CIA the proper remedy for the unauthorized release of Hillary’s yoga dates and wedding plans, because that’s all Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit said was on the 33K emails she deleted, right?
Who is the liberal who is shocked and appalled by all this? Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley seem upset, and former Clinton functionary Mark Penn, but that’s all. That’s it. Who is the single Democrat politician who stood up and said, “Hey, wait a second, we just can’t have one party’s administration spy on another party’s campaign?” And that doesn’t even address the deep state whitewash of Clinton’s email crimes that would have put any of us in jail.
No one objected. The Democrat Party is committed to the New Rules. And the New Rules are tyranny.
It can’t be a surprise. After all, the Democrat Party has bulldozed every norm, custom, and tradition out there in its quest for undisputed power. It spews hatred at its opponents – hey, everyone reading this is racist, sexist, and a denier of #science and so forth. The Democrats will happily deny you your free exercise of religion – put on your aprons people, because you can bake a cake or be bankrupted. They seek to suppress speech by encouraging fascism both in academia and by online tech companies, and if you think they won’t pass laws to limit speech given the chance, you’re fooling yourself. Hell, they tried to amend the First Amendment to overturn Citizens United, a case where the government tried to ban a movie critical of Hillary Clinton.
Let’s say that again, because it’s madness. The position of the left-of-center party in the United States is that the government should be allowed to arrest and imprison people for making a film critical of a politician.
As always, they have their excuses – “Let’s take the money out of politics (so that the only voices are the mainstream media which eagerly and slavishly suckles at our heaving liberal bosom)” – but in the end, they desire the consequences of the policies they support. They want to be able to arrest and imprison you for daring to make a film criticizing one of their icons.
Do you note the underlying premise, that they assume it is they who will be wielding the power to oppress?Good luck with that. We cannot have a functioning republic where about half of the population actively supports the trappings of tyranny. We can’t. No nation, especially one full of citizens who zealously guard their freedom, can tolerate a double standard for political behavior. It won’t be double for long. The New Rules, should they become ingrained in our systems, will inevitably go both ways.
They are going to hate the New Rules.
We need to return to the Old Rules, starting with the rule of law. It’s that or split our country in two, one free and one Democrat. Or it could be something even worse.
The United States of America cannot function where one of the two parties effectively recognizes no limits on the use of government power to impose its will upon the other half. We Normal Americans are woke, and we Normals are getting militant. We see what’s happening. But do the liberals and their Never Trump lackies? Do they really want to go down this road?
Serious commentary BUMP!
Cautions from America’s First President:
George Washington’s Farewell Address, excerpted portions on “dangers”:
“But the Constitution which at any time exists, till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole people, is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established government.
“All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.
“However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
“Towards the preservation of your government, and the permanency of your present happy state, it is requisite, not only that you steadily discountenance irregular oppositions to its acknowledged authority, but also that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretexts. One method of assault may be to effect, in the forms of the Constitution, alterations which will impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown. In all the changes to which you may be invited, remember that time and habit are at least as necessary to fix the true character of governments as of other human institutions; that experience is the surest standard by which to test the real tendency of the existing constitution of a country; that facility in changes, upon the credit of mere hypothesis and opinion, exposes to perpetual change, from the endless variety of hypothesis and opinion; and remember, especially, that for the efficient management of your common interests, in a country so extensive as ours, a government of as much vigor as is consistent with the perfect security of liberty is indispensable. Liberty itself will find in such a government, with powers properly distributed and adjusted, its surest guardian. It is, indeed, little else than a name, where the government is too feeble to withstand the enterprises of faction, to confine each member of the society within the limits prescribed by the laws, and to maintain all in the secure and tranquil enjoyment of the rights of person and property.
“I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.
“This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.
“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
“Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
“It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
“There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.
“It is important, likewise, that the habits of thinking in a free country should inspire caution in those entrusted with its administration, to confine themselves within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the powers of one department to encroach upon another. The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create, whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart, is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position. The necessity of reciprocal checks in the exercise of political power, by dividing and distributing it into different depositaries, and constituting each the guardian of the public weal against invasions by the others, has been evinced by experiments ancient and modern; some of them in our country and under our own eyes. To preserve them must be as necessary as to institute them. If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit, which the use can at any time yield.”
(Excerpted from G. Washington Farewell Address)
Sounds like I am completely surrounded and outnumbered.
That might be a usable thing, now I can attack in any direction and disregard collateral damage.
The division isn’t as simple as Tax Slave = Conservatives and Freeloaders = Liberals. I know MANY professional people and trades people who are in the Liberal / Tyranny camp and pay lots of taxes. They just think Democrats are compassionate and care about the little guy. They are naive about politics and especially are very superficial thinkers about the meanings of freedom and tyranny.
Self ping.
“But one result of this, is that the many decent, law abiding, hard working black residents moving out, means that those left behind are increasingly poor and/or part of the youth gang culture which terrorizes Chicago.”
Good for them to realize their predicament, and the fact that they have to “lift themselves up,” not depend on the “government nanny” to kiss it and make it better! And if what you say is true, the “leavins” in The Black Precincts of Chicagoland make it worse and worse, and the killings will continue to increase. So the question remains, “who has the responsibility to clean this up?” Because it isn’t the FedGov.
We need to bring in new blood. Something to get rid of one of the major parties. Check out the Veterans Party of America. They’re not the kooky “free drugs for all” of the Libertarians, or the whackamole “The Earth is going to boil us alive!” of the Greenies or the “All bow down, women in the kitchen and only Christian Religion is allowed in America” of the “Constitution” party (which is neither Constitutional or a party in the roughest sense of the word.)
The VPA is literally a group of people, originally founded by Vets, who are focused on solid, constitutional principles. It is as middle-of-the-road as you can get. Literally America and Americans.
Something’s got to give. The VPA is as close to what Republicans should have been, not the GOP-e. Someone needs to go ahead and disband the Dems and move them to the Greens or the CPUSA folks to better fit their political motives. The GOP is so at-odds with itself that we need to do something.
I’m so tired of being told that because I support a third party that I have to be supporting this side or that side because I’m stealing a vote away from their chosen candidate. My vote is sacred. My vote is MINE. And so far, here in NC in the last 10 years, not a single one of the politicians we had on the ballot has DESERVED or EARNED my vote. The only PERSON (note, not politician) was Donald J. Trump.
Sorry for the rant, but our system is broken, and people keep whining about it and then when presented with alternatives, try to shut it down.
The first shot of CWII was fired on a baseball field last year. It’s just a slow moving conflict with both sides doing a lot of yelling and posturing. If one of the Reps had died, the bloodshed would have been massive and there would have literally been tens of thousands of dead leftists on the streets.
Yes, American survived the First Civil War.
My comment that "it's not clear we survived the first one" was not about the first Civil War, I was saying we may not have survived the First Black President.
Here's my thinking. As we learn more and more about Obama's deep state operation to throw the election, then to bring the Trump Presidency down with a fake-news driven Coup (aka: Color Revolution), a process that is still ongoing, and therefore, despite the hopes of most every Freeper, may still succeed - given that it's not clear the Republic will survive Obama.
Alternately, if the most over-the-top Q claims are true, thousands of Deep State operatives, many of them Democrats, are going to be arrested soon.
I can see that boomeranging too. The left is always ready to riot. Sometimes what they start, they can't stop. It's easy to imagine things spiraling out of control.
2018: the fifty year anniversary of 1968. Many think we came pretty close to a nation-rendering convulsion in that terrible year. It feels like we are on that precipice again.
Cheers!
at the end of the interview they all admitted that yes, they wanted the USA to be over taken by the commies...
this is communism...this is fascism...this is totalitarianism....
its all they want...the power to control every aspect of your life...
sleep/eat/work/breed....
“.........many of them Democrats, are going to be arrested soon.”.......
When hell freezes over.
We have been waiting for a very long time for such an event and wait we will. Unfortunately many of us including myself will be dead and gone before we see demodummies or any other politician on their way to the big house.
>>Both parties gave US the Kenyanesian Usurpation that made all the other crimes possible.<<
Absolutely true, and sickening to witness.
The Republic died on Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009 when all of our elected and appointed stood around and watched a self-admitted born British subject, not a natural born US citizen, take the oath of office (twice, both times, one public, one private) for an office that the Constitution says he could not hold.
Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen.
They all knew it.
Both parties wanted to run ineligible candidates.
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