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Can Coal Help EMP Risk Reduction?
Homeland Security Today ^ | 8/12/2016 | Kelso

Posted on 05/23/2018 12:47:33 PM PDT by Crucial

When the Commission to Assess the Threat from Electromagnetic Pulse [EMP] Attack published its report in 2004, coal accounted for roughly half of all power produced in the United States. Today, only a third of US electricity comes from coal, according to the US Energy Information Agency (EIA). This is good news for both environmentalists and natural gascompanies. The formers’ long term dream of a more sustainable source of power is being realized, while the latters’ business is booming.

According to the EIA report, natural gas now makes up a third of all power produced – with nuclear and renewables making up the rest.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coal; emp; nationalsecurity; waroncoal
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Before Edison the whole economy ran on coal, there are always shovels, picks, horses, and carts.


21 posted on 05/23/2018 1:41:43 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Reno89519

Well then I suggest you keep reading, and find some credible sources. Or just go on, it won’t really matter.


22 posted on 05/23/2018 1:43:27 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Still Thinking

So the effect would be quite dramatic on electric and gas powered cars and trucks, also diesel for that matter.


23 posted on 05/23/2018 1:44:47 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Gen.Blather

LOL !

You have a way of saying that and yet the Parties listening still think it all smells like Roses.

I’m still counting the Trickle down Chaos in the Domino Effect in My head.


24 posted on 05/23/2018 1:55:58 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: mountainlion

Coal plants would be easier to get running again as it is less dependent on electronics for energy generation.


25 posted on 05/23/2018 2:02:19 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: bigbob; Chode; Squantos; snooter55; All

Just think if RIGHT NOW we lost JUST Cellular Service for a 6 hour period- in the lower 48 !?

All calls, texts and .net INSTANTLY STOPS.

Ask your family to try it for 1 hour. Turn Everything Comms wise OFF and observe. I’m betting the Adults crack 1st just to shut the kids up.

If Ya really want to Amp up (pun intended) the situation, turn off the Main Breaker for the House also- at night.


26 posted on 05/23/2018 2:07:15 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Reno89519

Where ? Source Please.


27 posted on 05/23/2018 2:08:06 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Crucial

What makes the turbines spin doesn’t matter. If a non-hardened plant gets with an EMP it’s done. Of course that’s not going to happen either. So really who cares.


28 posted on 05/23/2018 2:11:20 PM PDT by discostu (It's been so long, welcome back my friend, to the show, that never ends.)
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To: mountainlion

You can see the smoke stacks and get the warm fuzzies knowing that power is being made.


29 posted on 05/23/2018 2:12:07 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Crucial

Another reason for Solar Power!!


30 posted on 05/23/2018 2:32:08 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Nope. At most some transformers would need to be replaced. Power generation would not be impacted.

Sir, I respect your service to our country, but you don't know jack about the electric grid.

Generators produce a relative small voltage with a bunch of Amps. It feeds into a Main Power Transformer that raises the voltage to a very high amount. Every generator has what is called a Main power Transformer.

31 posted on 05/23/2018 2:34:56 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorableo)
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To: AmericanVictory

Correct. When I said “minimal” I was talking about the electric power components unique to electric cars. Power semiconductors, maybe.


32 posted on 05/23/2018 2:36:51 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: hadaclueonce

next year when I retire after 45 years of electric grid operations, I will be selling this stuff.


33 posted on 05/23/2018 2:37:33 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorableo)
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To: ThomasThomas
"Another reason for Solar Power!!

Yes.


34 posted on 05/23/2018 2:59:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: hadaclueonce

No, I don’t. Some people who are a HELL of a lot smarter than me on EMPs and have studied their impacts on many of our devices told me explicitly that.


35 posted on 05/23/2018 3:01:52 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: kaktuskid

And the amount of coal required to feed today’s plants to satisfy the infrastructure of this century would not be served by shovels, picks, horses and carts. On a local level? Sure.


36 posted on 05/23/2018 3:12:07 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Get in the Spirit! The Spirit of '76!)
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To: AmericanVictory

They would shut down any car made after, I think, 1972. That was when circuit boards started going into cars.


37 posted on 05/23/2018 3:12:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Crucial

Electromagnetic pulses would probably happen incidentally to air bursts and only affect near areas around those. If EMP-specific attacks occur, those will probably precede air bursts over cities and ground bursts on selected sites. EMP-specific attacks (very high altitude) would emit both shorter and longer waves. The longer waves would affect mainly transformers and appliances that are plugged in. The shorter waves might affect equipment that has no metal cover. Communications would be affected for quite a few hours (temporary ionospheric effect).

If you receive the warning, unplug stuff. That would be for the purpose of resuming reception of artificial perversions of morality from the foreign minds in our upscale coastal communities.


38 posted on 05/23/2018 3:12:57 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Future Snake Eater

I hope you are correct.
Black starting an electric grid would not be pretty.
Once again, thank you for your service.


39 posted on 05/23/2018 3:14:29 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorableo)
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To: Future Snake Eater

You are correct. Besides, electromagnetic pulses will only come with bursts that decrease populations in other ways. Blasts and heat waves would be a greater concern followed by I-131 for a few days.


40 posted on 05/23/2018 3:25:39 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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