China Reveals Another ‘Growler’

AIN online ^ | May 8, 2018 | Chen Chuanren

[BigEdLB]

Oh. I thought they had another angry panda

[DoughtyOne]

Seems to me that China plans on killing us with vast numbers rather than straight up superiority.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Some composites perhaps, but the thing looks like it has the radar cross-section of a Vietnam-era F-4 or a loaded F-100, F-105.

[right way right]

You are a realist.

[doorgunner69]

It is not intended to be stealthy.

It is apparently an ECM platform, which is rather obvious. RCS is not too important when you are radiating on the frequencies stealth aircraft are trying to be invisible to.

But, you knew that.

[CurlyDave]

Seems to me that China plans on killing us with vast numbers rather than straight up superiority.

Quantity has a quality all its own.

Do not be dismissive of this strategy. It has worked in the past.

[pfflier]

Seems to me that China plans on killing us with vast numbers rather than straight up superiority.

It worked for the russians in WWII. They claimed that quantity is a quality unto itself.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, painfully so...

[DoughtyOne]

No, I’m not dismissive of it at all. It’s a strategic observation.

[DoughtyOne]

Both of you touched on the idea of quantity being a quality unto itself. I don’t think I’ve heard that expressed before, but it’s a decent observation.

[laplata]

Seems to me that China plans on killing us with vast numbers rather than straight up superiority.

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Attrition was a huge factor in whipping the Germans in WW II.

A Sherman couldn’t compete with a Tiger but we had a bunch more Shermans than they did Tigers.

[CurlyDave]

I don’t think I’ve heard that expressed before, but it’s a decent observation....

It is a famous quote. Maybe Stalin.

[jmacusa]

“Quantity has a quality all it's own’’.- Josef Stalin.

[jmacusa]

Looks kinda crappy.

[cynwoody]

It worked for the russians in WWII. They claimed that quantity is a quality unto itself.

An hour from now in Red Square, the 73rd Victory Day parade should be getting under way, celebrating VE Day (which was May 9, Soviet time).

Numerically, of the countries involved in WW2, the Soviet Union suffered the heaviest casualties.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks for the mention laplata. Good point.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks folks. Appreciate the mention.

[Jimmy Valentine]

That expression was coined by Josef Stalin. During the Korean War the Chinese used human wave attacks. They lost their taste for those when we invented the quad 50 caliber “meat grinder”.

[Tallguy]

We’ll have to see if China trains it’s pilots and gives them enough flying time to be proficient. The Soviets never did. They had an impressive fleet of aircraft with some very top-notch pilots, but most of their fleet would have died very quickly in a shooting war.