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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

I’ve known Mark Shaw for five years, so I know that he’s conservative. He’s pro-life, pro-gun rights, anti-gay marriage, and anti-illegal alien. He’s more conservative than Schindler, and Shaw will be a great chairman.


232 posted on 05/13/2018 3:06:59 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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>> I’ve known Mark Shaw for five years, so I know that he’s conservative. He’s pro-life, pro-gun rights, anti-gay marriage, and anti-illegal alien. <<

I haven't seen any complaints about Tim Schindler's record on then on the issues, he serves as a Cook County Commissioner (one of the few Republicans on the board opposing the overwhelmingly socialist agenda on the board), and seems to be well regarded by most conservatives. He's not my ideal choice, but I would argue he's the most conservative IL GOP chairman we've had since Gary MacDougal in 2002. Given that the last four chairman were the odious Jack Dorgan (who Shaw backed for Chairman, BTW), gay marriage luvin' Pat Brady, Andy "Combine" McKenna, and Judas Baar Topinka, I find Schindler to be a breath of fresh air in comparison.

My ONE major beef with Schindler is he's been a Governor Rauner cheerleader in the past, but the same can be said for many of the "tea party leaders" trying to oust Schinndler (hypocrisy, much?) and plenty of FReepers are holding their nose for Rauner in November because they don't want JB. I disagree with 'em but if that's the worst thing about Schindler, he's still 1000X times better than any IL GOP chairman over the last 16 years.

As for Shaw, actions speak louder than words. Shaw has been the committeeman for the 10th District for years, and the Republican officials there (local, state, and federal officials) are anything BUT pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-traditional marriage. Under Shaw's "leadership", they are notorious for nominating RINOs who vote like Democrats. What has Shaw done to change that? Did Shaw support pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-traditional marriage candidates for Congress, or did he back RINOs Mark Kirk and Bob Dold? Did Shaw endorse Kirk's primary challenger for the U.S. Senate in 2016 after Kirk had proven to be a liberal Senator?

Furthermore, I've talked with several Republicans who are familar with Shaw, and they believe he is to the left of Rauner on immigration. William J. Kelly even stated that Shaw wrote a letter to Rauner and said the Democrats amnesty bill didn't go far enough to "help the undocumented community" and that Rauner should insist it be rewritten to help illegals more. Shaw argued that doing so would help Rauner "win over Hispanic voters". Is Kelly lying?

>> He’s more conservative than Schindler, and Shaw will be a great chairman. <<

Sorry, I see no evidence from his track record that Shaw will be "more conservative" than Schindler, but I do see numerous evidence he will likely be less conservative. The only thing Shaw has in his favor is a bunch of prominent "name" conservative endorsing him and claiming he is the true conservative anti-establishment "Tea Party" candidate in the race. Again...shades of Liz Cheney running as the "true conservative" candidate for the U.S. Senate.

In short, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

233 posted on 05/13/2018 7:24:13 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: PhilCollins; BillyBoy; Impy

Billy seemed to lay out why Shaw is bad news, Phil. Could it be that Shaw has been lying to you about his positions ? It wouldn’t be the first time a Republican lies to your face and goes and supports the radical left agenda. If the rhetoric doesn’t match the record, you can’t support the person.


234 posted on 05/13/2018 9:06:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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