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Toronto van attack: Calm actions of police stun US
BBC News ^ | 24th April 2018 | BBC News

Posted on 04/24/2018 4:22:37 PM PDT by Ennis85

The calm actions of a police officer who arrested the Toronto van suspect without firing a shot have prompted praise and, in some quarters, astonishment.

Video from the scene shows suspect Alek Minassian pointing an object at the officer and shouting: "Kill me!"

The officer tells the man to "get down" and when the suspect says he has a gun, the officer repeats: "I don't care. Get down."

Videos on social media show Mr Minassian lying down as the officer arrests him.

Many in North America are asking how the suspect did not end up dead in a hail of police gunfire. It contrasts with incidents in the US where police have shot and killed unarmed people.

"Research has shown that Canadian police are reluctant users of deadly force," says Rick Parent, a criminologist at Simon Fraser University in Canada's British Columbia.

"An analysis of police shooting data over many years revealed, that in comparison to their American counterparts, Canadian police officers discharge their firearms far less, per capita than US police. However, like American police officers they take many risks in protecting the public."

One US-based academic told the BBC that the officer would have had a "duty" to kill the suspect, if the object he was pointing was a gun.

Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders told journalists the officer had done a "fantastic job" to understand the "circumstance and environment" and get to a "peaceful resolution".

He said police in the city were "taught to use as little force as possible in any given situation".

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Mike McCormack, president of the Toronto Police Association, told the Globe and Mail newspaper that the officer was a "hero" and could have justified opening fire.

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TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: minassian; police; shooting; suspect; toronto
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To: Ennis85

They’re trying to figure out what to put on the greeting card to say how sorry they are they arrested him.


41 posted on 04/24/2018 5:34:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Other than the blood shed it’s somewhat entertaining.

All these eggheads trying to make us perfect by disarming the innocent.


42 posted on 04/24/2018 5:38:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ennis85

Plus, Canada has full on gun control. The cop wasn’t really afraid for his own life.


43 posted on 04/24/2018 5:41:50 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Ennis85
One US-based academic told the BBC that the officer would have had a "duty" to kill the suspect, if the object he was pointing was a gun.

The reporter read that somewhere.
He wrote it down and then he read it.
Unnamed US-based academic would be an idiot, if he existed.

44 posted on 04/24/2018 5:42:50 PM PDT by dead
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To: Ennis85

The only thing that makes liberals as happy as saving a guilty killer is killing an innocent unborn child.


45 posted on 04/24/2018 5:53:12 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Ennis85
Unless that cop had a good enough look to be *certain* that what the guy was holding was,in fact,harmless he was negligent in not dropping the guy.
46 posted on 04/24/2018 5:54:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Ennis85

because peace officers in other countries are trained to believe citizens are normal.

In the US, peace officers are trained to consider citizens to be a hostile enemy that needs to be put down.


47 posted on 04/24/2018 5:59:27 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: Ennis85

Meanwhile today in Dallas, two police officers were shot.


48 posted on 04/24/2018 5:59:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mylife

The Canadians have allowed a whole new breed of criminal into their country. It’s time for them to respond or quite a few police officers are going to be laying in the street.

This one was lucky!


49 posted on 04/24/2018 6:01:49 PM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: Ennis85

I imagine that he was not holding a gun, so it was a lot easier to be calm. However, facts and reporting does get in the way of this articles agenda.


50 posted on 04/24/2018 6:07:42 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Fantasywriter
And yet WaPo is not calling for van-control.

Nor for shutting down the Canadian Automobile Association.

51 posted on 04/24/2018 6:09:33 PM PDT by TChad (Leftthink: Reality is sadly out of touch with the higher truth.)
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To: a fool in paradise

How do you tell an Incel? Do they brand a big L on their forehead?


52 posted on 04/24/2018 6:09:39 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: TChad

True that.


53 posted on 04/24/2018 6:10:34 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Ennis85

The name, Minassian, comes from Armenia and Iran.


54 posted on 04/24/2018 6:20:56 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Ennis85

Canadian police officer fatalities are likely on the rise or will be soon due to an influx of violent Muslim extremists.


55 posted on 04/24/2018 10:36:59 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: JoSixChip
I guess the point being we don’t have enough dead cops in the last couple of years. Whats a few more?

No. I think the point is that the cops in Canukistan don't have itchy trigger fingers that freak out when they get an opportunity to shoot someone/something. Nothing wrong with that.

56 posted on 04/25/2018 6:25:15 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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