Posted on 04/19/2018 12:20:23 PM PDT by Petrosius
SACRAMENTO, California, April 18, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – The California State Assembly is slated to vote on legislation that has been interpreted as broad enough to ban the sale of books that address helping people overcome unwanted same-sex attractions.
AB 2943 adds “[a]dvertising, offering to engage in, or engaging in sexual orientation change efforts with an individual” to the state’s list of illegal “unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices undertaken by any person in a transaction intended to result or that results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer.”
“Sexual orientation change efforts” are defined as “any practices that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation.”
The bill makes no exceptions for adults who actively seek such efforts, or minors whose parents have given their consent. (California minors are not currently required to obtain parental consent for abortions.)
The bill passed the assembly’s Privacy and Consumer Protection Committee 8-2 and the Judiciary Committee 8-1, clearing the way for a floor vote. That vote has yet to be scheduled, but the California Family Council says it could take place as soon as Thursday.
“Conversion therapy as a practice implies an inherent wrongness in who I am,” Democratic Assemblyman Evan Low, who introduced the bill, declared on April 10. “There is nothing wrong with who I am or with anyone in the LGBT community. This legislation sets California apart as a state of inclusion, not exclusion.”
Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), disagrees.
“Traditional medical ethics, enshrined in the Oath of Hippocrates, requires physicians to prescribe according to the best of their ability and judgment, and to avoid doing harm. And patients have the right to choose their therapeutic goals,” she said. “These bills impose on all Californians, by law, the opinion of an activist lobby that same-sex attraction or the belief that a person is imprisoned in a body of the ‘wrong’ biological sex is always normal, healthy, and immutable.”
Pro-homosexual lawmakers in other states, such as Washington, have pushed similar legislation prohibiting treatment for unwanted sexual attraction, but critics say the scope of AB 2943 is unprecedented.
National Review’s David French, an attorney who specialized in religious liberty with the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) and the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), wrote Tuesday that by classifying the subject under prohibited “goods,” the legislation would “actually–among other things–ban the sale of books.” He added on Twitter that it was “terribly drafted.”
“At its core, AB 2943 outlaws speech,” ADF’s legal analysis of the bill reads. It says that licensed counseling, religious conferences, book sales, and paid speaking engagements could all potentially face legal penalties for promoting ways to reverse unwanted attractions or for expressing traditional Christian teachings on sexuality.
ADF further notes that the section of California’s civil code pertaining to “deceptive acts or practices” expressly “commands that it be ‘liberally construed and applied,’ Cal. Civil Code § 1760, resulting in prohibitions against [sexual orientation change efforts] potentially being applied beyond the confines of a traditional counseling relationship to many other constitutionally protected activities.”
If AB 2943 becomes law, it will be all-but certain to face legal challenge.
The United States Constitution expressly forbids federal laws “abridging the freedom of speech” or “prohibiting the free exercise” of “religion” (a provision the Fourteenth Amendment has long been interpreted as extending to state laws). The California Constitution declares that “[e]very person may freely speak, write and publish his or her sentiments on all subjects,” and that “[f]ree exercise and enjoyment of religion without discrimination or preference are guaranteed.”
“Conversion therapy,” also known as reparative therapy, is controversial largely because it challenges the homosexual lobby’s claim that sexual attraction is biologically rooted and unchangeable. Prominent medical organizations such as the World Psychiatric Association (WPA) have condemned the practice, but many former homosexuals attest to its effectiveness.
Even some homosexual academics have begun dissenting from the “born this way” trope in recent years. In 2016, the American Psychological Association’s (APA) Dr. Lisa Diamond advised LGBT activists to “stop saying ‘born that way and can’t change’ for political purposes, because the other side knows it’s not true as much as we do.”
Just a very, very short step to go after churches and Christians.
If, under this proposal, I am living in CA as a Christian and I share the Gospel with people and they ask me if they would have to give up the practice of homosexuality to follow Christ, am I in violation of this proposed law? Am I to be arrested and prosecuted under the "conversion" proposal? Is the Bible banned as a book which requires the renouncing of the sinful practice of homosexuality?
Wouldn't it make more of an impression if they just piled them up in front of the Capitol and set them on fire?
Banning them will only make kids want to read them. Be more effective to simply burn them in a public setting
Wow! What covers about half of the garbage in Movies & TV coming out of Hollywood these days.
My 'sexual orientation' is toward my wife, yet Hollywood says I need to chase every skirt passing by... or worse.
The best thing that can be said about this pack of howling idiots pretending to be a legislature is that they aren’t very good at law writing. In fact, they’re abysmal. Since 1989 they have tried at least 4 or 5 times to ban the sale (not possession just the sale) of “assault weapons” and yet I was in gun store last week that had all the popular varieties for sale. I figure their attempt at banning books will similarly elude them.
And then you burn the owners.
Good insight.
Before
After
No.
But as Cultural Marxist were intended to bring about social, political and even civilizational suicide we shouldn’t expect them to do anything different than they are doing. Indeed, they can still get worse.
Consider: both the Nazis and proper Communist (the soviets behind Cultural Marxism) both believed that they were establishing regimes to last and as a consequence they had a dim view of some of the stuff that Cultural Marxist want. So both were and are evil but they weren’t necessarily insane.
But Cultural Marxism makes for lunatics, madmen who are on a path set for them by those who wanted the societies they are a part of to fail and fall. They are so well equipped for that purpose that even without the Soviet Union (that they were supposed to benefit) still around they are finding new forms of insanity likely unanticipated by the Soviets and are also eagerly, if sometimes cluelessly, serving the role of self destruction for the benefit of others ... notably the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood.
So, no, these people aren’t Nazis. They are too crazy, too focused on the survival of the other and the failure of the “we”. In some ways this makes them worse, especially as their madness intensifies (it seems like it’s a bottomless hole, and they’re accelerating the stupid).
It will pass easily. Sometimes I feel like I am the only heterosexual whit male in California.
Bob Hope was a prophet:
“I’ve just flown in from California, where they’ve made homosexuality legal. I thought I’d get out before they make it compulsory.”
Just like Islam.
Like all Liberal idiocy, this will actually harm those who they wish to “protect”. This is a societal and mental health issue. Liberals turn everything into politics. I wish all grievance groups could see that they are blatantly being used.
In truth, the Left is the visible emergence of the spirit of antichrist in these lase days - those who, after Christ takes his saints out of here, will usher in the darkest, deadliest, most astonishing seven-year period ever seen on earth (happens in a few decades from now IMO).
Be it Worldwide Islamic Supremacists, Jihadists, Communists, Marxists, Fabian Socialists, AntiFa, Nazis, or whatever name they color themselves, the Left are totalitarian dictators (self-proclaimed and misnamed “Progressives”) striving for Global Totalitarian Government.
An older man, out of curiosity that simply got the better of him, joined a nudist colony. As he was venturing out to see all the colony had to offer a young and extraordinarily beautiful woman bumped into him and he, predictably, got an erection.
The man was very embarrassed but the woman sized him up and said: “Of course I want to, but can we do it over by the sauna? I’m meeting a girlfriend there in a half hour.”
She started to try to pull him that direction she must have noted that he’d turned beet red.
“I’m new here.” he timidly explained.
“Oh!” she grinned, “They didn’t explain the rules. If a man has ... well, we call that ‘calling for you’ and it means they should have sex.”
So she pulled the amazed man over by the sauna and let him have his way with her.
Afterwards he was relaxing in the sauna, amazed at this nudist colony life, when he let loose a tremendous fart. In moments a mountain of a man entered the room and said: “Were you calling for me?”
“Sir?”
“Oh, you’re the new guy. The rules are erections call women, farts call men.”
So he grabbed the helpless older man, turned him over and buggered him.
The man was horrified and managed to make his way to the Administration Building where he announced his departure saying to the secretary: “You need to warn us geezers. I get maybe one erection a month but fart dozens of time a day!”
When does the book burning start?
Yes.
That it looks like a Romans 1:18-32 process is underway is likely because among too many that process is underway,
Just as the attitudes that have so many wanting to import Islam looks suspiciously like them having a strong delusion.
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