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Why Britain played second fiddle to France in Syria strikes... (no cruise missile ships)
MAILONLINE ^ | 16 April 2018 | MARTIN ROBINSON, UK CHIEF REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

Posted on 04/16/2018 8:48:07 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Britain's 'depressing' array of ageing ships and fighter jets unable to fire cruise missiles meant that France took the lead in striking Syria, it was revealed today.

The UK fired eight Storm Shadow missiles out of 105 used to punish Bashar al-Assad for his chemical attack in Douma last Saturday - fewer than the French and the Americans.

The Royal Navy's Type 45 Destroyer HMS Duncan played second fiddle to the French ship The Languedoc who fired missiles at Syrian targets while the British type-23 frigate was moved away.

The £1billion ship has a space on the deck where a cruise missile launcher is meant to be but it was scrapped to save cash with new frigates able to do it not due at sea until 2025 at the earliest.

Instead HMS Duncan set up station south-east of Cyprus as an 'air defence' ship against any threat against RAF Akrotiri from Moscow, while four French frigate warships went into the attack zone.

France also sent its fast Rafale jets to fire its Scalp missiles into Syria protected en route by a squadron of Mirage 2000s armed with air-to-air missiles.

Britain's only means off hitting its targets came from four Tornado GR4 jets who sent in eight Storm Shadow missiles - but the warplanes were first used in 1979 and will be retired next year.

Four Typhoons were protecting them but these cannot fire cruise missiles after an integration programme was stopped for financial reasons several years ago and will not be able to use Storm Shadow until the end of 2018.

But Britain did provide the bulk of intelligence, maps and surveillance images needed for the raid on Saturday morning.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5620029/Britain-played-second-fiddle-France-Syria-strikes.html#ixzz5Ctk2r3eC Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; cruisemissile; royalnavy

Britain was outmuscled by the Americans and the French because its many of its ships and planes are unable to fire cruise missiles at targets in Syria

The British Army's size is approaching 82,000 troops - its smallest for 220 years, figures show

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1 posted on 04/16/2018 8:48:07 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Britain would have much to gain if Ivan conquered them, ie: lessen Muslim threat, and make men out Brits if that’s even possible.


2 posted on 04/16/2018 9:10:01 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

82 000 is ridiculous. With disarmed society, an islamic uprising of millions there and whoosh, no more england


3 posted on 04/16/2018 9:12:47 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sad, they once had the best navy in the world.


4 posted on 04/16/2018 9:23:05 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: JudgemAll

I don’t think they would fight an Islamic uprising. They’re already giving the Islamic invaders everything they want now.


5 posted on 04/16/2018 9:25:08 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“The £1billion ship has a space on the deck where a cruise missile launcher is meant to be but it was scrapped to save cash“

Council Flats are expensive. And the Brit government has made quite clear where their priorities lie.

L


6 posted on 04/16/2018 9:32:19 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Britain is like Canada, why spend billions on defense when you’ve got the US to do that for you.


7 posted on 04/16/2018 9:35:42 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Lurker

The National Health Service, of which British leftists claim to be oh-so-proud, will never, ever have enough money, no matter how much is spent. Its the second largest state employer in the world, after the Chinese Army.

Its budget has historically grown at 4% per year, although that’s been trimmed to 1-2% per. And for that, a citizen will wait an average of 5 hours before seeing a doctor at a hospital, and complaints from the public are non-stop

It is the socialist program godzilla that will devour the UK


8 posted on 04/16/2018 9:44:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You’d think the British would still keep up their navy.

The Russians aren’t going to get many tanks into Piccadilly Circus without coming across the ocean.


9 posted on 04/16/2018 9:44:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: PGR88

Lived in the UK for several years. My son was born in the UK and has citizenship of both the USA and the UK. It is most sad to see a once grand nation commit suicide!


10 posted on 04/16/2018 9:51:47 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

It’s too late now to become the 51’st state.


11 posted on 04/16/2018 10:01:40 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: PGR88

” It {NHS} is the socialist program godzilla that will devour the UK “

Same with ObamaCare, although the goal here is more about total control of all.


12 posted on 04/16/2018 10:19:19 PM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Avenue)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The story is not fair.

The Brits fired 8 bunker busting Storm Shadow cruise missiles.

These missiles are unique and not an ordnance that we deploy.

They struck first and softened the hardened targets so that our follow on cruise missiles could finish.

Where is the credit that is due the Brits for their 13 aerial tankers that flew out of Cyprus?

Those tankers caused the Russians to think the attack was coming from the west allowing the success we had.


13 posted on 04/16/2018 10:29:26 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: DIRTYSECRET

LOL, don’t give them Brits ideas.


14 posted on 04/16/2018 10:46:13 PM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
he Royal Navy's Type 45 Destroyer HMS Duncan played second fiddle to the French ship The Languedoc...

True or not, that's going to leave a mark. Second fiddle to the French? Nelson is rolling in his grave. Bad show...

I am only guessing, but it's that the Royal Navy hit a nadir some time ago and is slowly climbing out, hopefully in time for whatever Brexit turns out to be. The British Special Forces are as good as it gets. It simply won't do to underestimate the British - that's been a bad bet for a very long time.

15 posted on 04/16/2018 10:58:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: sasportas

I don’t think Americans are too keen on protecting Western Europe anymore. That military entitlement has neutered the European male.


16 posted on 04/16/2018 11:31:32 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: BenLurkin

Push through Europe, send in Spetznaz to hold the chunnel, and it could happen.

Put the tanks on flatbed though.


17 posted on 04/17/2018 4:37:48 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Rusty0604

time changes everything. Before the rise of the British navy in the mid 1700s, the Dutch were the naval power and before them the Spanish and before them the Genoese and before them, Ming dynasty China.


18 posted on 04/17/2018 5:24:09 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It has been reported that Britain has more general officers than main battle tanks. So let’s look on the bright side. If another major war occurs, each British tank could be commanded not by some green lieutenant, but by an experienced general.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045226/British-Army-generals-tanks-stuffed-penpushers.html


19 posted on 04/17/2018 5:57:20 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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