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1 posted on 04/16/2018 10:03:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 04/16/2018 10:04:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I can think of reasons why Democrats would not like this.

Currently the Democrats can count on 55 electoral votes for president from California. Under this plan, I’m not sure they can count on all three new states automatically voting Democrat.


5 posted on 04/16/2018 10:09:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Notice that miserable Bay Area mess is thrown in with the NorCal region, which guarantees more dem Senators. Only the SoCal area would have a chance of being more to the political center.


13 posted on 04/16/2018 10:13:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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It needs to be divided into East and West California. That will truly be a political divide. East California will be more like Idaho.


14 posted on 04/16/2018 10:13:26 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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Ain’t gonna happen......................


21 posted on 04/16/2018 10:16:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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Article IV Section 3. New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

What makes them so sure that Sacramento will be willing to diminish its power by 2/3's?

And while not stated above, I believe they need a supermajority in both houses of Congress for this to pass. If not initially, then after Trump vetoes it.

23 posted on 04/16/2018 10:17:28 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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Upon re-re-re-reading paragraph one of Article IV, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, and paying very close attention to the placement of semicolons and commas, I am not at all certain that a state may divide itself in to two or more states:

Article IV SECTION. 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States con- cerned as well as of the Congress.

26 posted on 04/16/2018 10:19:53 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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All three remain de facto Mexican colonies.....


28 posted on 04/16/2018 10:21:13 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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If they break up into 3 states, I don’t think they automatically become states. They have to petition Congress. In the meantime, would California have any representation in Congress, since the old California no longer exists?


30 posted on 04/16/2018 10:22:03 AM PDT by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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Now California has two Democratic senators. Under Cal 3, it will have four Democratic senators from ultra-blue North California and California. The two senators from South California will be up for grabs. Democrats could pick off one of them or even two. The Democrats will not lose Senate seats, but they might gain one or two.

Dead on arrival.

34 posted on 04/16/2018 10:27:59 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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This is a trap. The primary divide is urban coastal liberal vs Rural inland conservative. Even at that the inland cities are a challenge. Sacramento County for example is reliably liberal. To overcome any defiance in souther California, they’d just import more illegals into Orange and San Diego counties. This plan will just create 6 rat Senate seats instead of 2


35 posted on 04/16/2018 10:28:10 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
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We need to be careful about cheering this on. Splitting into three states would give California three times the number of Senators, probably more congressmen, and three separate electoral college entries. Depending on how the borders are drawn, we could be inviting more leftists into the process.


38 posted on 04/16/2018 10:35:13 AM PDT by Magnatron
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The question is why are the Libs grouped the way that they are in the present California? Do they move themselves into those areas or do they brainwash their offspring to be Liberal and to stay in those areas? Same question with most State capitals.


43 posted on 04/16/2018 10:50:27 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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I’ve got a better idea, we vote based on acreage. One vote per acre.


44 posted on 04/16/2018 10:51:06 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals can kiss my bitter clingers!)
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Still got to apply for statehood. I vote nay.

5.56mm


45 posted on 04/16/2018 10:52:56 AM PDT by M Kehoe (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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Actually, I would suggest going the other way. California has shown that it is not capable of maintaining statehood, it should be returned to US territory status.


46 posted on 04/16/2018 10:58:40 AM PDT by D Rider
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No, not three states; two. Make it like Michigan, which has two unconnected land masses as one state. The RAT infested LA-Hollywood area, and the RAT infested San Freaksicko north will be New California.

Saves us the horror of a probable four new RAT senators instead of just two.


54 posted on 04/16/2018 11:12:44 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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ULTRA BLUE N Calif? Just exactly WHERE is that dividing line? The Northern counties of Calif-—away from the coast are NOT Liberal.


60 posted on 04/16/2018 11:45:34 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Jerry and Company may have dealt California it’s biggest blow yet since statehood.

It appears they’ve just about destroyed the unified state.

Way to go assholes!

Couldn’t have more contempt for the Leftists in California.


63 posted on 04/16/2018 12:05:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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Would these three or four pieces automatically become states or revert back to territorial status pending admission to the Union? As territories, their “delegates” to congress would have no votes on important issues. Then the GOP could perhaps block admission of California pending endless study committees.


66 posted on 04/16/2018 12:27:04 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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