Posted on 04/12/2018 10:50:48 AM PDT by Red Badger
The chance of California splitting into three has moved a step closer after a billionaire secured enough signatures to trigger a referendum on the issue.
Tim Draper, who made his money through Hotmail and Skype, has gathered 600,000 signatures supporting the change – way above the 364,000 needed.
Those who want to break up California believe it would boost educational standards and reduce the political power of Sacramento, the state’s capital.
Providing the state authorities agree the signatures are genuine a referendum on the issue will be held this November alongside other mid-term elections.
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Sacramento will never let it happen, though. They've achieved that fever dream of Democrats everywhere, a one-party state. Not one step back, Comrades!
Would like to see Oregon split like this also. We (Oregon) are actually a mostly red state. Problem is, most of the population is in Portland, Salem and Eugene, which is where the majority population, mostly blue, resides.
Rule of thumb is that if you need to collect three times as many signatures as the law says you do. Less than that, and you probably will face a simple wholesale rejection of your signatures.
San Franpsycho. I like that.
I am very wary of California being split up. That would mean at least 4 more senators and lots of congressmen which through gerrymandering could easily be all democratic and goodbye GOP majorities in Washington. Look at Oregon, where I live. Gerrymandered to death (and public employeed to death) and we will be lucky to have a Republican in any office in the future (even though we have a sizeable conservative constituency).
I feel sorry for the conservatives that live in California, but from my perspective two ultra liberal senators from California are enough.
It’s the same in nearly every state, even big red states like Tx...Look at Dallas, Houston and Austin.
It’s many of the big population centers in nearly every state which have become leftist cesspools. That is where the problems breed and spread.
Be much easier to change the Electoral College to a county based system.
Just about ALL decent-sized blue stats can be divided into a nearly uniformly liberal metropolis and a conservative-leaning remainder. California is almost unique in that it would be tricky to gerrymander a conservative “half” into existence.
New York... Pennsylvania... Illinois... Washington... Oregon... New Mexico... Colorado... Virginia... Minnesota... New Hampshire... Maine...
The other exceptions are the tiny New England and Mid Atlantic states which are dominated by refugees from liberal areas who haven’t abandoned the liberalism they fled: Maryland, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island...
New Jersey would be tricky, because it would be hard to split it in such a way that Camden/Trenton and the New York-metro cities end up in the same half. But even Delaware’s more rural portion, although it’s not enough to create a split in half along population lines, is plenty conservative.
“It’s many of the big population centers in nearly every state which have become leftist cesspools. That is where the problems breed and spread.”
Yep, so true. Hope they keep their cesspools over there in the cities, since they’re the ones bringing it all on.
Doubt many of them would survive well on the more remote and rural side of Oregon. Nice to be on the “good side”, yes, I am bias, lol.
Now we just need to vote the Oregon Brown OUT!
I’m in favor of splitting Idaho and Wyoming into six states apiece. That would give us 24 rock solid conservative senators. Fair’s fair.
That has about as much chance, as well........................
Succession would be far better. A 2 state break up will gives us 4/4 liberal/prog senators and a three state breakup would give us 4/6 if not 6/6. No way a break up happens if it weakens the prog contingent in the Senate.
Succession takes to progs out of the mix.
Maine’s Second Congressional District, which covers 80% of the state, is the largest Congressional District in area east of the Mississippi.
It gave Trump one electoral vote because the president carried this district by 10 points, and Maine divvies up its electoral votes the same as Nebraska (except Nebraska has three congressional districts whereas Maine has only two).
It would be OK with me if the Second District became a separate state and ditched the more liberal First Congressional district.
I agree with you on secession. The dems will NEVER let 55 seats disappear. However the break up is plausible if it does make it to a vote. If the vote did happen and the break up were on it would be a boon for Republicans. The democrats would take it to the 9th circus and have it overturned and then the judges would legislate all republicans to prison for some sort of treason or some made up malarkey.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Otherwise people just love to hear the sound of themselves complaining about that state.
Rather than break up California immediately, Congress (Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution reads: “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shave be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.” should require the State of California become the California Territory and then create States from that territory over time. Making California revert to being the California Territory will allow the federal government to run the crimaliens out of California at which point Congress will realize that the states formed out of the California Territory will have only about two-thirds of its current representation in the US House of Representatives.
I keep saying that it would be great to get rid of California as it would end the dems chances of winning national elections for a very long time. Even if just a split like you say would eliminate all delegates going to the democrat and would have a very negative result for the demwits. So we should all get behind the move to split California. There are areas in the north and in the mountains that are far more conservative than the rest of the state and most of the people there are sick of being part of the current state of California.
Yup. In all instances, the population centers are the cancer. If we can solve that, we’ll win every time!
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