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Boehner's bombshell weed reversal a big boost for marijuana
MSN ^ | 04/11/2018 | Kristine Owram

Posted on 04/11/2018 8:02:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: cyclotic

I haven’t been to a DMV in 5-10 years and own multiple cars. Same with most people I know. Don’t even know where it is since everything can be done by mail or by a dealer.

Anyone who knows a plant is effective for their own personal situation should be allowed to use it as they see fit. Anyone who grows plants should be allowed to sell them once tested free of contaminants.

That’s how things should work in a country of free people. Anything else is a slippery slope to tyranny. IF people accept regulation of what plants you can grow/use privately, it will never end. Anything potentially harmful or “unproductive” that you do on your own time will be banned. “Unhealthy foods”, TV, websites, games, extreme sports, motorcycles, hunting, surfing, etc, etc, etc.

Countless legal things are unproductive, unnecessary and MAY lead to you being a burden to society by your own choice to do them. Where exactly will they draw the line on protecting people from themselves?

Luckily most people strongly rejected the government’s first foray into controlling private lives- alcohol prohibition. Today, most free people are rejecting the regulation of what plants they can privately use. Freedom loving citizens will BEAT THEM BACK once again and make sure they never go further!


41 posted on 04/11/2018 10:10:00 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Whatever


42 posted on 04/11/2018 10:28:53 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: cyclotic

“Whatever” is how fascism sprouts and grows. We must beat back every attack on personal freedom while it is still small. Even if you disagree with that particular freedom.

“First they came for the...”


43 posted on 04/11/2018 11:30:47 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

I’ll trade you.

I’ll legalize marijuana, if we end all welfare, deal?


44 posted on 04/11/2018 11:35:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: varyouga

Conversation is over. When you resort to name calling you just lost.


45 posted on 04/11/2018 11:38:19 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: varyouga

Because I don’t agree with your little pet cause.


46 posted on 04/11/2018 11:38:54 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: cyclotic

I didn’t call you any name. Maybe you read someone else’s post.

The “pet cause” is all the personal freedoms to live and risk your own life as you wish. They will not stop at plants, cigs and booze IF they are ever successful in that first step. There are already calls to regulate food intake, exercise, salt, sugar, drink size, TV hours, etc.


47 posted on 04/11/2018 11:46:49 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: dfwgator

“I’ll legalize marijuana, if we end all welfare, deal?”

We should end Welfare for people that don’t need it. Not “all” welfare.

Otherwise what is your solution for the handicapped, too old and mentally ill who cannot fend for themselves?


48 posted on 04/11/2018 11:50:31 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga
Otherwise what is your solution for the handicapped, too old and mentally ill who cannot fend for themselves?

I'm ok with assistance for those, but that is more disability payments than what I would call "welfare".

49 posted on 04/11/2018 11:54:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: varyouga

You all but called me a fascist.

And yes, it’s a pet cause. You told me if I didn’t agree I was a essentially in favor of government intrusion.


50 posted on 04/11/2018 11:58:44 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: Responsibility2nd

We thought it was cigs Boner was smokin’ and all this time, it was weed he be tokin’!


51 posted on 04/11/2018 12:06:41 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: cyclotic

Creating a crime out of something that occurs entirely on ones own property with no possible victims but themselves IS the highest possible level of government intrusion. No other way to look at it.

It necessitates the creation of a stasi-like surveillance/snitching apparatus to enforce it. A system where people are randomly searched at will based on BS dog signals. A system to create the precedent of “protecting people from themselves” via the use of SWAT team home invasions. They are already taking innocent people’s cash until they can prove it isn’t drug money. ABSURD!

Slowly taking personal rights away “for the children” is the root of fascism


52 posted on 04/11/2018 12:15:21 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

As one who believes in the Constitution and also in the wisdom of social limitations, I don’t have a problem with Colorado and Washington State legalizing marijuana. Where I do have the problem is all the other states seeing a bandwagon and jumping on instead of letting these two states be the laboratory for the ret of the nation.

This article has a couple examples of statistical effects of legalization in Colorado. http://pluggedin.focusonthefamily.com/the-costs-of-marijuana-legalization-a-colorado-snapshot/

It seems to indicate some serious negative societal effects. I think a couple more years are truly necessary for the big picture.

The kid next door to me smokes, a lot. He sits in his car for hours listening to the radio and smoking weed. He’s become far more angry and isolated, bordering on paranoid.

Sure, his behavior is fine for him, but his behavior also affects me. Imagine if I wanted to sell my house and prospective buyers walk up while he’s in his car. That’s a direct effect on me selling my house and you cannot make any claim that it isn’t.

There are significant negative effect on job readiness and employability. Homelessness among younger adults is up dramatically. I was in Spokane a few weeks ago and there were hundreds of high losers waiting for free meals, clogging up the system.

Like I said, I don’t have a real problem with legitimate medical needs. But, when there are more pot shops than gas stations, I does make one wonder just how many people are THAT sick.


53 posted on 04/11/2018 12:34:02 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: WayneS

Boehner’s daughter married a Rasta Man!


54 posted on 04/11/2018 12:36:22 PM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: cyclotic
The kid next door to me smokes, a lot. He sits in his car for hours listening to the radio and smoking weed. He’s become far more angry and isolated, bordering on paranoid.

Marijuana is a negative for every imbecile who smokes or ingests it. BUT is especially bad for teenagers because their brain is not fully formed. Probably their brain never recovers and they permanently shave 5-10 points off their IQ. I am talking about a serious pot head who is a teenager. Obviously one joint a month will not ruin his/her brain for good.

55 posted on 04/11/2018 12:42:08 PM PDT by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: dennisw

He’s early 20’s. Not sure how long he’s been at it.

The cops busted him for smoking in his car on the street so now he parks in the side yard on the grass. He’s torn it all to shreds and it’s just a muddy rut now.

Hopefully they fix it.


56 posted on 04/11/2018 12:48:33 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: cyclotic

Countless legal activities can be addictive, have “negative societal effects” and cause issues with employability.

We don’t outlaw them because people can do them responsibly and we generally don’t punish people for bad things they haven’t even done. Just because countless people are killing themselves with fast food and their families are suffering, doesn’t mean we must ban all good people from ordering a double burger. It doesn’t mean we need SWAT raids for people making donuts because they might become a burden one day.

Imagine saying “we shouldn’t have junk food on every corner for all these fat lards to get more fat until they cant work. Look at all these slow fatties everywhere. There aught to be a law! I don’t eat junk food so it doesn’t affect ME.”


57 posted on 04/11/2018 1:41:29 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: dfwgator

What’s your solution for people who have more children than they can ever hope to afford?

This is the root cause of welfare and I could not think of another civilized solution for such a thing


58 posted on 04/11/2018 1:46:55 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Fast food doesn’t make people act stupidly. Marijuana does. One more time. I’m not getting in line with your pet issue.

You can hold your opinion. Mine is that yours is wrong, yours is that mine is wrong.


59 posted on 04/11/2018 1:48:43 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: varyouga
What’s your solution for people who have more children than they can ever hope to afford?

I suspect if you took welfare away, that problem would take care of itself.

60 posted on 04/11/2018 2:07:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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