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Even Venezuela's Russian and Chinese sugar daddies are dumping the socialist hellhole
American Thinker ^ | April 3, 2018 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 04/03/2018 10:23:57 AM PDT by detective

Right under the radar, Venezuela is getting dumped by its two sugar daddies, Russia's state-linked Rosneft energy giant, and China's state-linked PetroChina. Bye-bye money, because this is a big blow.

The pair of them were slated to run two of the three of Venezuela's monster-big refineries in the Paraguana complex, Amuay and Cardon, two refineries that were the crown jewel of Venezuela's global oil presence. Back in the 1990s, these were the most advanced and best-run refineries in the world.

Today, they have fallen into such a state of shambles even the Russkis and Chicoms won't touch them. According to a report from Kallish Energy, the repair costs of the Chavista-managed socialist-run rubble is $10 billion with a 'b.' They'd have to shell that out just to get the darn things running and then would get ten years to run them and sell their products before forking them back over, free of charge, to the Venezuelan Chavista government, which ruined them in the first place.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: china; russia; venezuela
The Chavistas aren't going to be getting whatever money they thought was coming from abroad to bail them out. And this was pretty much their last good thing on the horizon.

The oil companies view Venezuela as a money pit no market forces can paper over as in the past, and pretty useless as a foreign policy instrument, given the cost.

1 posted on 04/03/2018 10:23:57 AM PDT by detective
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Up to this point we’ve had riots and starvation. I wonder if this will be the tipping point that ignites a civil war. As bad as Venezuela is, that may be a good thing.


2 posted on 04/03/2018 10:27:16 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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The Chavistas took out a mortgage with Russia and China using the refinaries as collateral then proceeded to burn down the house before the bank could take over.


3 posted on 04/03/2018 10:27:29 AM PDT by C19fan
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Venezuela shows the savagery of Russian and Chinese Communism in South America.

Let it sink in...

CNN should be showing pictures of the starving Venezuelans every night on TV... with titles like, “THIS IS COMMUNISM IN ACTION" - "COMMUNISM BUILDING A NEW HELLHOLE IN SOUTH AMERICA’... "WATCH CHILDREN EAT DIRT.” ETC...

4 posted on 04/03/2018 10:41:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hogg doesn't know the horror of the Gulag but if he gets his way we'll all find out.)
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Venezuela is about to become the South American equivalent of Somalia at the rate things are going. Which is too bad because just their oil resources—if properly managed—could have made them the richest country on that continent going away.


5 posted on 04/03/2018 10:46:02 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Venezuela’s economy has degenerated and is so disorganized that even if you are willing to bribe the government, you have no assurance you’ll get what you paid for.


6 posted on 04/03/2018 10:50:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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Socialism works great until you run out of other people’s money.


7 posted on 04/03/2018 10:56:06 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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The oil companies likely expect a regime change given that they are holding back, and expecting a better deal from successors.

Watch this one. The key here is an anticipated repudiation of Chavista debts - the 5 billion to the Russkis is small beer compared to the debt to the Chinese, which may be ten times that or more, nobody but the principals really knows. Those were secured by oil that's still in the ground, that Venezuela can no longer refine itself, and that it cannot apparently deliver in usable form either. And all of the money that the Chavista government got for it is gone into party members' offshore bank accounts.

It means that if the Chinese and the Russians were to completely occupy the entire oil industry in that country, evict the current workers and pump oil 24/7 they'd still be running at a loss given that oil prices haven't risen to cover the cost. That oil in the ground hasn't simply been sold already, it's been sold multiple times, and not always to the same people.

The real irony is that the skilled workers who at least could have been running maintenance on the refineries were themselves evicted when the Chavistas took over, their jobs turned over to party loyalists who couldn't or wouldn't do them. Many are in Colombia now, whose own oil production has risen sixfold as a consequence. They might be enticed back, but not until after a regime change.

8 posted on 04/03/2018 11:15:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Maybe, or maybe a mass illegal immigration to adjoining countries forces the government to use the military to plug the holes, forcing a desperate citizenry to riot, with so much death from the putdowns, the OAS moves to topple the government, which steps down and ends up in prison while the rest of the world is expected to fund Venezuela’s rebuilding.

They will be told the US and the West were behind it all and it wasn’t socialism’s fault. Next time, it just has to be applied harder. Meanwhile the only organization capable of making money, the drug cartels, run the country for their own benefit, making Caracas the Amsterdam of South America.
Tourism booms, the kleptocracy remains in power, and the caravan rolls on.


9 posted on 04/03/2018 11:17:50 AM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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Let’s send every American university instructor to Venezuela.

So they can eat them.


10 posted on 04/03/2018 11:30:33 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I’d like to see a poll asking what the Venezuelan people have learned from this ordeal.


11 posted on 04/03/2018 11:34:53 AM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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It CAN’T be a hellhole..Pope Frankie says Hell doesn’t exist!

Must be the other kind of hole, made of the stuff I scraped off my boot when I came in from feeding the cows


12 posted on 04/03/2018 2:23:49 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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Chicaps.....not Chicoms turning down the business


13 posted on 04/03/2018 2:28:26 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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