Posted on 04/01/2018 11:19:30 AM PDT by rogerantone1
In Episode 15 of Season 6 (March 22, 2018), Chicago Fire shows scenes where a man’s ammunition is set off by a fire. Bullets shoot everywhere, seriously wounding both the man’s mother and a fireman.
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The gun store in Santa Rosa burned to the ground during the big fire. Neighbors buildings unscathed. Made me wonder if it was an insurance scam. Can’t blame the firemen for staying away.
No, it isn’t a big deal, the pressure isn’t contained so that it goes one direction as it is in a firearm, the sides blow out, etc makes noise yes.
Ammo will engage but with little velocity. Bullets only whiz from exposure to heat in Three Stooges episodes. And a monkey using a meat grinder as a machine gun doesn’t work either. As funny as it is.
I had a friend’s house catch fire, he was a trapshooter and had probably 5000 loaded, no issues.
That was the only episode of that show I ever saw. Probably the last too. Cooking off ammunition resulted in a sustained firefight and firefighters getting shot. Insane
The only rounds that would pose a danger are those in a loaded firearm, that cook off from the heat.
All the others simply pop the sides out and make a sound like a firecracker.
If that wasn't the case -- if rounds were fireable outside of a gun -- you would be able to improvise a single shot firearm with a pair of vice grips and a hammer with a point on it.
I was cleaning out a storage area and burning things which were not worth keeping.
I did not know that a box had a few .22lr rounds in it. I was standing around the fire when one went off. The case hit me right between the eyes.
It hurt just a tiny bit and left a red mark which went away in a few hours.
Basically, I guess if it hit you in the eye, it could damage it but even then probably would not put it out.
I'd like to see more info on the incident. Because, that's not how rounds are designed. Not much happens without a chamber. Sure, there will be some minor expulsions, but nothing hollywood.
Ammunition cooking off in a fire is not terribly dangerous as it is not confined in a steel tube. The casing will go farther than the bullet as it is lighter weight and neither will fly very far as the energy will be more sideways than fore and aft.A building burned here several years ago, a storage units building that had one unit full of ammo. The firemen did their job as if it were any other building fire. No one was hurt and the sounds of the ammoo burning off were muted as the force was expended in all directions and the force was dissipated for the same reason.
> the pressure isn’t contained so that it goes one direction as it is in a firearm, the sides blow out, etc makes noise yes <
I’m not a ballistics expert, and I do not play one on TV. But I think you’re right. It’s all about the pressure, or in this case a lack of pressure. My guess is that a cartridge in a fire would behave like a mini hand grenade, with a range of a few feet or so.
More likely a brass tube “case”
Back in the 70’s my garage burned down. I had reloading supplies, powders and thousands of live rounds as well as other things you find in a garage. I told the FD of this upon their arrival. There were no big issues.
When I was a kid, we set off some .22 cal rounds in a fire, duplicating a practice used by the Lone Ranger, and Hopalong Cassidy, to create a diversion.
There was no loud report, just “pop”or “pfssst”.
Guess we didn’t have the right caliber silver bullets.
The sides will blow out, and the cartridge case is propelled backwards as fast as the bullet goes forward, so neither has any velocity.
It’s kinda like the movies shooting rifles underwater and killing people, they won’t penetrate six feet underwater. I discovered this when I was about 12, fired a .45 into water of a horse tank, the bullet would drop to the bottom, penetrate about 2 feet.
I burn my trash. Any aerosol cans are shot with a pellet rifle before burning.
I have had them explode and the force would probably be about the same as a cherry bomb. I have lit many in my day. In fact I would guess a little more powerful than a cherry bomb or M-80.
I also have had batteries explode while burning trash. Most of the time they either just make a pop but once I had one do about the same as the aerosol cans. I surprised the heck out of me.
Lots and lots of things are more dangerous than ammo.
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