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Michelle Chen is a contributing writer at The Nation, a contributing editor at Dissent and a co-producer of the “Belabored” podcast and Asia Pacific Forum on WBAI FM.

1 posted on 03/30/2018 6:18:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Dear Moron

The primary purpose of the Census is to determine poltical representation. WHY, unless you are deliberately trying to foster fraud, would you count anyone BUT Citizens?


2 posted on 03/30/2018 6:19:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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Ms. Chen:

The government stopped asking for legal immigrants to count in the 1950’s, but a LOT has changed since then.

California is badly out of synch with the rest of the country. There are MILLIONS of illegals now in California.

This is badly needed. Thanks for your opinion, but now please go away.

Thanks.


5 posted on 03/30/2018 6:23:17 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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“Papers please” is so last century — and is always brought up by the people who want you “chipped.”


6 posted on 03/30/2018 6:23:50 AM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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Is that Camera Hoggs mom?


7 posted on 03/30/2018 6:25:21 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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The census is to determine Representation in the House. Asking about citizenship will help in apportioning Government services to CITIZENS WHO ARE PAYING TAXES. I do not believe the Constitution says that we have to pay for people who broke the Law while coming into the USA. And hard working Americans are FED UP with paying for those who just want to sponge off those hard working Americans.


8 posted on 03/30/2018 6:25:34 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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“Trump wants to reframe the census to fit his definition of America, not protect Americans”

Because Michelle Chen’s revisionist, counter-intuitive definition of “American” is the manifest, unquestionable Truth, and the vernacular, traditional, popular definition is Falsehood. I wonder if she believes her own drivel.


9 posted on 03/30/2018 6:25:54 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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I will point this out...if you take the number of non-Americans in the country at 22-million (often suggested), and figure that three-quarters of this group are in California, NY, and Florida (my humble guess), then the question weighs greatly upon the 2024 Presidential election and the Electoral College.

You can figure lesser populations counted, and the three states combined would lose at least nine Electoral votes, and those nine votes likely shift to red states (mostly southern states).

This would also reshape a significant number of states and the district-drawing scheme, and put the Supreme Court into a full-time job of trying to figure ‘fair’ district drawings, or not.


10 posted on 03/30/2018 6:27:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The United States of America belongs to the citizens.

Citizens of other countries who broke into ours do not belong here.


11 posted on 03/30/2018 6:27:27 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I’ve always wondered how illegal aliens had as much political power as they have. Now I know. I never thought about the allocation of congressional seats in their relation to the number of illegals counted in the census.


12 posted on 03/30/2018 6:27:50 AM PDT by suthener
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What a Moroon. States with high levels of non-citizens then “steal” representation from the other state with low levels of non-citizens. Totally unfair.


13 posted on 03/30/2018 6:28:17 AM PDT by D Rider
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pablum


14 posted on 03/30/2018 6:28:51 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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Sorry Michelle #2 - Barack Obama is the one who actually did reframe “the census to fit his definition of America, not protect Americans”.

The citizenship question was on the census form until it was eliminated by Barack on the 2010 census form.

Obama and the democrats did not want Americans to know the magnitude of the foreign invasion of America that was underway.

President Trump is trying to repair the widespread damage Obama has done to the nation.

A part of that includes restoring the census inquiry regarding citizenship.


15 posted on 03/30/2018 6:29:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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... "The purpose of an accurate census count is to help the government understand the people for whom it is responsible" ...

Excuse me?

16 posted on 03/30/2018 6:30:27 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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She needs to go back. She’s not interested in being an American.


18 posted on 03/30/2018 6:30:53 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Support Alt-Tech: Gab.ai, Infogalactic.com, Brave browser, ProtonMail)
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Apparently each and every human being on earth is born with the right to vote in US elections.

I guess that comes from being the "universal nation."

19 posted on 03/30/2018 6:33:07 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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Once again, the left’s accusations reflect their own past and current actions.


23 posted on 03/30/2018 6:39:28 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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The purpose of an accurate census count is to help the government understand the people for whom it is responsible — full stop.

Why is our government responsible for coddling illegal aliens? — mic drop.

26 posted on 03/30/2018 6:42:45 AM PDT by null and void ("We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?" ~ Joseph Stalin)
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Ms Chen ugly in every way. Not to mention just wrong.


27 posted on 03/30/2018 6:47:08 AM PDT by DAC21
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People this stupid should not be allowed to write articles.


28 posted on 03/30/2018 6:48:58 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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Michelle Chen is a contributing writer at The Nation, a contributing editor at Dissent and a co-producer of the “Belabored” podcast and Asia Pacific Forum on WBAI FM.

For those of you not aware, WBAI is the Pacifica radio station out of NYC. That says volumes about the author.

Had Ms. Chen done her homework, she'd find out that questions beyond a simple count are Constitutional:

It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people. On numerous occasions, the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census. As early as 1870, the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census. The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed. 287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution's census clause (Art. 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and "does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics, if 'necessary and proper,' for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution, and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated." United States v. Moriarity, 106 F. 886, 891 (S.D.N.Y.1901).

For what it's worth, and I'm not saying this is the intent (since being in this country illegally is, well, illegal already) but mailing back a Census form and lying on the Citizenship question would likely constitute mail fraud.

Or, perhaps, the intent of the question is to get a real count of the citizenry, and re-balance the House and Electoral College...


30 posted on 03/30/2018 6:52:48 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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