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David Shulkin, fired by Trump, warns privatizing VA is a bad idea....
CNBC ^ | 03/29/2018 | Amanda Macias

Posted on 03/29/2018 8:50:32 AM PDT by gattaca

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I know the MSM will not hold a fair debate on this subject. I think it's a good idea to shrink the bureaucracy and let vets get quicker treatment.
1 posted on 03/29/2018 8:50:32 AM PDT by gattaca
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To: gattaca

Yes, Mr. Shulkin, because the VA, our only example of complete government-controlled healthcare, is doing such a sterling job.


2 posted on 03/29/2018 8:53:22 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: gattaca

“It should not be this hard to serve your country.”

Waaaaaa! Pack it up snowflake and stop whining.


3 posted on 03/29/2018 8:53:59 AM PDT by proust ("The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today.")
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To: gattaca

Trump and his guys are smart enough to TEST BED any move in that direction to see what the possible shortfalls might be.
I’m a vet in the VA system and on balance have had a good experience there. As for the VA having some unique experience with vets, nearly all the medical folks who have provided care are from the LOCAL MEDICAL COLLEGES.


4 posted on 03/29/2018 8:54:49 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Why are damn near ALL the SEX FIENDS Democrats?)
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To: gattaca

To the Democrats, the VA is just a big pot of gold to steal from.


5 posted on 03/29/2018 8:55:24 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: gattaca
Shulkin was not "fired" any more than McMasters was fired. They were hired to perform certain functions, attain certain goals for which their talents, recognized by the CEO, were appropriate. When their tasks were completed their contracts ended and new talent is required. New people with the now required capabilities and proclivities to accomplish the new tasks.
Of course that does not serve the MSM's proclamation of CHAOS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
6 posted on 03/29/2018 8:55:55 AM PDT by arthurus (5jyy^)
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When does Session’s contract end?


7 posted on 03/29/2018 8:57:59 AM PDT by proust ("The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today.")
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To: gattaca

FALSE PREMISE!!

Trumps proposal is NOT “Privatizing”!!!

It is to allow an OPTION for private coverage.


8 posted on 03/29/2018 9:00:30 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: gattaca

Everyone knows the government always does a better job than the private sector in any endeavor they undertake. Except in every known example in American history...other than that trust your government.


9 posted on 03/29/2018 9:01:51 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: BlueStateRightist

I don’t necessarily disagree completely with Shulkin, but here’s what I’d like to see. I can use my local VA outpatient clinic here in Tallahassee for routine care, but if I need any detailed testing or advanced care, I have to travel all the way to Gainesville which is a 2 hour trip each way. I’d much rather be able to use a local provider and have the VA cover it, instead of having to take a day off work and take the ride down I-75.


10 posted on 03/29/2018 9:03:07 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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warning that privatizing the VA Department could hurt veterans.....Worse than a bureaucratic “gimme” scam? I got into a terrible argument with some Ahole a year ago on FR when I said sell all the VA land, fire the slackards and disgraced help from private care and allow them to go to REAL Health care.


11 posted on 03/29/2018 9:03:36 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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I’ve watched my little VA hospital go from having few physicians to many physicians to few physicians.

Most doctors don’t want to work for the VA.

Obamacare caused lots of doctors to work for the VA. Obamacare was ruining their private practices.

Now, the doctors have left the VA to return to private practice.

That doesn’t stop congress from throwing money at the VA.

My little VA hospital spent millions of dollars a few years ago to build a new psychiatric ward.

They couldn’t find anyone to work there.

Guess what they’re doing now?

They’re building another psychiatric ward.

The Veterans are a non-issue. Buying Democrat votes is the issue.


12 posted on 03/29/2018 9:04:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“I think it’s a good idea to shrink the bureaucracy and let vets get quicker treatment.”

Agreed. I get EXCELLENT healthcare through my VA Hospital. They have also sent me to a local hospital for a mammogram, which was closer to me and more convenient than driving the hour to Madison and back.

I am also in their Colon Cancer control group and their Breast Cancer research group. The VA does a lot more than it toots its own horn about!

And we female Vets have our own area of the hospital to use, with all female staff; many retired Vets, themselves. We have exercise classes, a nutritionist available, healthy baby classes, and wellness groups for those with PTSD and depression issues (WAY too many females have these problems now since ODS/DS/Kuwait/Iraq/Afghanistan.) It’s like a SPA. I love it and I can’t praise it enough! :)

There are so many eligible Veterans who live Rural and are NOT getting the care they have EARNED and DESERVE. Opening up regular hospitals to them should be a no-brainer and you’d think hospitals would be JUMPING at the chance to serve Vets as well as civilians.


13 posted on 03/29/2018 9:04:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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“It should not be this hard to serve your country.”

Service is always hard. It requires putting the needs of others ahead of your person.
Do you think its easy for service members in combat zones?
Do you think what our President is trying to do is easy?
Do you think he might have chosen an easier path after his successful business career?
The problem with the VA is attitude toward service and service members. And yours Mr. Shulkin sucks.


14 posted on 03/29/2018 9:05:41 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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I worked for the VA healthcare system. It does some things well, probably somethings that you dont need to privatize, but a lot of what goes on there can be privatized, and when I worked there, are argued for that. But most of those there were just looking out for their JOBS...


15 posted on 03/29/2018 9:07:38 AM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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shulkin is a scum sucking parasite that should have been tossed out months ago.


16 posted on 03/29/2018 9:09:06 AM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . .)
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To: Dick Bachert

When I was diagnosed with metastatic prostate cancer 3.5 years ago, I established a doctor-patient relationship with a primary care doctor at the VA in Houston. At the first of 2017, our insurance deductible went up to $5,800/year for each my wife and me.

Made an appointment with my VA doctor to get in the VA Choice program. Was told I’d need to meet with a VA oncologist to get the approval to have the VA pay my out of pocket expenses and wouldn’t be able to see the oncologist fr a coupe of weeks.

Two days later, I got a call in the morning from the VA telling me my request was approved and the outside company that administers the program would be calling me by 5:00 p.m. the same day; and they did. Did not have to meet with the VA oncologist.

The VA is paying for all my out of pocket expenses at MD Anderson, the best cancer center in the world.


17 posted on 03/29/2018 9:11:51 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: blueunicorn6

Other than the individual mandate, Obama care never really ended.


18 posted on 03/29/2018 9:12:47 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: gattaca

The VA bureaucrats are organized crime.


19 posted on 03/29/2018 9:12:59 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: joesbucks

I just calls em like I sees em.


20 posted on 03/29/2018 9:13:51 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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