Posted on 03/29/2018 6:19:10 AM PDT by old-ager
he Department of Justice (Department) proposes to amend the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives regulations to clarify that bump fire stocks, slide-fire devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics (bump-stock-type devices) are machineguns as defined by the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA) and the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), because such devices allow a shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger. Specifically, these devices convert an otherwise semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun by functioning as a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism that harnesses the recoil energy of the semiautomatic firearm in a manner that allows the trigger to reset and continue firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. Hence, a semiautomatic firearm to which a bump-stock-type device is attached is able to produce automatic fire with a single pull of the trigger. With limited exceptions, primarily as to government agencies, the GCA makes it unlawful for any person to transfer or possess a machinegun unless it was lawfully possessed prior to the effective date of the statute. The bump-stock-type devices covered by this proposed rule were not in existence prior to the GCA's effective date, and therefore would fall within the prohibition on machineguns if this Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) is implemented. Consequently, current possessors of these devices would be required to surrender them, destroy them, or otherwise render them permanently inoperable upon the effective date of the final rule.
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I have a better counter-concept than that.
Even if it’s a machine gun we still have a god-given right to defend ourselves how we see fit.
While they are busy mashing the bump stock into the machine gun “rules” I’m busy freeing it all in accordance with the Constitution.
This description is demonstrably false. The "harnessing of recoil energy" is irrelevant; the sliding motion of bump-fire stocks uses the shooter's muscle tension to continually manipulate the trigger through each reset and firing cycle. The physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter never stops - that's why BATFE approved these designs in the first place - and why they will even work on virtually recoil-free .22 rimfire rifles (with a light trigger).
Triangulating on gun control is as bad an idea as triangulating on illegal immigration. (Oh, we love you largely English-illiterate, low-life, rabidly anti-American DACA illegals!)
“and devices with certain similar characteristics...”
... which this “rule” conveniently leaves undefined so that the agency can “interpret” what similar characteristics are covered later.
Since you are a "current possessor" of such thumbs, you will be required to surrender them, destroy them, or render them permanently inoperable!
It doesn't. Quite the contrary, in fact. Automatic weapons are, in the XXI Century, a requirement for a "well regulated militia". Every one of us Citizens has the right to own automatic weapons; the government is specifically forbidden to infringe that right.
“The process will take another few months so by the time the rule making processes is finished, peoples emotions will have cooled off.”
And you don’t think TPTB know that and will ensure emotions are reheated??? It won’t even require the involvement of a firearm modified by a bump stock.
+1
Shall not be infringed
Semantics, technicalities, either you want to allow automatic fire weapons or you don’t.
Fighting over semantics and technicalities is silly.
Bump stocks or rubber bands can turn a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic fire weapon. PERIOD! Close enough!
Is THIS the 2nd amendment hill you want to die on?
I agree that automatic fire weapons SHOULD be illegal for private citizens. I agree that bump stocks and other like devices SHOULD be illegal for private citizens.
Confiscation ONLY after adjudication. Fines not jail time.
> Fines not jail time.
Not sure you understand the NFA
That’s right. The support hand pulls the trigger; one pull, one shot.
un-Constitutional. Completely
The president is executive branch, not legislative. If he can get away with unilaterally forcing the ATF to categorize a bump-fire stock as an NFA device, then he also can get away with forcing the FDC to declare Hooters hot wings to be a Schedule III drug.
Florida’s anti-bump-fire law already is being challenged on the grounds that it violates the Due Process clauses of the 5th and 14th Amendments. It violates Due Process to force an individual to throw away something they bought and paid for when still completely legal without they be compensated for the loss.
And let’s not forget the NRA played an active role in this when they offered that they would not be opposed to bump-fire stocks being further regulated. They’re supposed to have our backs, not be stabbing us in the back.
complete lie!!!
Yeah, well lets not let facts get in the way of an agenda.
> multiple patents for its designs
A US patent is to some extent an attestation - by the federal government - as to exactly how something works. If I get time, I’ll read the slide/bump stock patents to see if they describe their operation as involving a single function of the trigger. Highly doubtful.
Right, so USPTO (in addition to ATF) says they are not machine guns.
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