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To: DiogenesLamp

When Moore won in 2012, he had over a million votes! He wasn’t a bad candidate in 2017,


Moore was a lousy candidate. He won by 4% in 2012. Romney, the Yankee Mormon heretic, won AL by 22.4% on the same ballot. Moore somehow creates this intense desire among voters who normally vote GOP to pull the lever for the other guy.


31 posted on 03/27/2018 8:03:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Moore was a lousy candidate. He won by 4% in 2012. Romney, the Yankee Mormon heretic, won AL by 22.4% on the same ballot. Moore somehow creates this intense desire among voters who normally vote GOP to pull the lever for the other guy.”

Amen to all that. The key ingredient is that Roy Moore built his whole image around this “holier than thou” ten commandments religious guy. Then there are these embarrassing accusations and Moore does a lousy job of defending himself.

Sure — some might say it was much ado about nothing and he broke no laws etc. Doesn’t matter. This was an election - not a trial. It looks pretty trashy when a 30 year old dates teenagers. Rightly or wrongly he was viewed as a former pervert and a religious hypocrite.

I live in Alabama and I can tell you that no one was going around saying they were voting for Roy Moore. He became an embarrassment. It had little to do with what the GOP was saying, doing or not doing. It was a local election and Alabamians were disgusted with the whole Roy Moore mess.

Roy Moore was a lousy candidate.


34 posted on 03/27/2018 9:03:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Zhang Fei
Moore was a lousy candidate. He won by 4% in 2012. Romney, the Yankee Mormon heretic, won AL by 22.4% on the same ballot.

Well now that's just misleading. By this time, most people *HATED* that incompetent moron Barack Obama, and they were highly motivated to get rid of the stupid bastard. A lot of people don't give a crap about down ballot candidates, but you are portraying it as if they had disdain for Moore, which they did not. Moore got more than 50% of the vote, and Romney got 60% of the vote. Romney only got 10% more votes than did Moore, and as I said, there are a lot of people who don't give a crap about down ballot candidates. (this is pretty much the same in most elections in different states as well.)

The very next down ballot Republican candidate only got slightly more votes than did Moore, and this is more representative of how state voters usually regard down ballot candidates.

To make matters worse for Moore, a huge chunk of the Alabama judiciary signed a letter that was published in Several prominent Alabama newspapers endorsing the Democrat candidate running against Moore. A lot of the "establishment" office holders in Alabama didn't like Moore, and so they did what they could to torpedo him.

Moore somehow creates this intense desire among voters who normally vote GOP to pull the lever for the other guy.

No he did not, but people keep repeating this falsehood over and over and now they've got a lot of people who don't do their homework believing this narrative, which has only been put forth to advance the establishment attitude against reform candidates.

In 2012, the voters gave Moore almost as many votes as they gave the next down ballot candidate in that election. If your claim were true, the next guy ( I forgot his name) would have been way ahead of Moore, but in fact he was just very slightly ahead of Moore.

Stop reading your own personal dislikes into your analysis. There are a lot of people who didn't like Moore anyways, and they are trying to convince people that their disdain was shared when in fact this is completely contradicted by the 2012 ballot results from Alabama. I downloaded them and ran the numbers. How about *YOU* down load them, run the numbers, and show some objectivity?

38 posted on 03/27/2018 9:55:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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