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John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment
New York Times ^ | March 27, 2018 | JOHN PAUL STEVENS

Posted on 03/27/2018 5:35:55 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Rarely in my lifetime have I seen the type of civic engagement schoolchildren and their supporters demonstrated in Washington and other major cities throughout the country this past Saturday. These demonstrations demand our respect. They reveal the broad public support for legislation to minimize the risk of mass killings of schoolchildren and others in our society.

That support is a clear sign to lawmakers to enact legislation prohibiting civilian ownership of semiautomatic weapons, increasing the minimum age to buy a gun from 18 to 21 years old, and establishing more comprehensive background checks on all purchasers of firearms. But the demonstrators should seek more effective and more lasting reform. They should demand a repeal of the Second Amendment.

Concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment, which provides that “a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Today that concern is a relic of the 18th century.

For over 200 years after the adoption of the Second Amendment, it was uniformly understood as not placing any limit on either federal or state authority to enact gun control legislation. In 1939 the Supreme Court unanimously held that Congress could prohibit the possession of a sawed-off shotgun because that weapon had no reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a “well regulated militia.”

During the years when Warren Burger was our chief justice, from 1969 to 1986, no judge, federal or state, as far as I am aware, expressed any doubt as to the limited coverage of that amendment.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 97yearsold; banglist; decay; dementia; dinosaur; fossil; guncontrol; johnpaulstevens; justdiealready; livingfossil; senilestevens
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To: reaganaut1
"In 1939 the Supreme Court unanimously held that Congress could prohibit the possession of a sawed-off shotgun because that weapon had no reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a “well regulated militia.”"

A. Miller never showed
B. What exactly were "trench sweepers"?
C. The author uses the "states rights" interpretation, which was shot down by Heller.

At least the truth comes out, sort of.

61 posted on 03/27/2018 6:12:19 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: COBOL2Java

I suspect that Justice Stevens has forgotten the circumstances surround the passage of the 2nd amendment and the entire Bill of Rights.

The Constitution had failed to be ratified with limitations on the new government. Ratification was only possible WITH the concurrent passage of the Bill of Rights. I suspect that if the Bill of Rights is attacked it will unbind the colonies.
I could be wrong, but I hope we never have to find out! The consequences would be devastating.


62 posted on 03/27/2018 6:13:00 AM PDT by simi_ed (unbind the colonies)
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To: PapaBear3625
In 21st Century America, armed "federal law enforcement" is the standing army the Founders so feared.

This, and rightly so !
Our Armed Forces are by and large patriots, but those maggots are the true 'jackbooted thugs'.

See: Waco, Ruby Ridge, et al.

63 posted on 03/27/2018 6:13:32 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: reaganaut1

I fully support the left trying to repeal the 2nd thru a Constitutional amendment. But, they won’t.

What I do not support is the left, a bunch of cowards, doing the equivalent thru unconstitutional means, thru the courts, thru bad law, thru unconstitutional statutes and bureaucratic restrictions and regulations.


64 posted on 03/27/2018 6:15:14 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: reaganaut1
Just axin' a question, do SCOTUS members have armed protection? Of course, the answer is hell yes, the Supreme Court Marshals.

The force itself, currently numbering about 125, is responsible for security of the court building, its inhabitants, and it visitors. Additionally, they provide personal protection to the Justices at all times.

Does stevens want his protection to give up their weapons?

Hell no, he just wants me to give up my protection so some snot nosed little prick named Hogg will feel good.

Piss off/on jps.

65 posted on 03/27/2018 6:16:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: reaganaut1

At least he is calling for it to be done via the amendment process, which is Constitutional.

The Left usually achieves such ends via slimy underhanded tricks.


66 posted on 03/27/2018 6:19:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reaganaut1
The tactic being used in this 'march' is called “Weaponized Empathy” and it’s one of the Left’s most effective tools. It’s also pure evil.

What is Weaponized Empathy? It's when you use people's morals and empathy to manipulate them into serving your own political agenda. It's basically an advanced kind of guilt-tripping designed to get people who really do care about others to vote for their own enslavement.

Guns kill children! We need to do everything we can to get rid of guns! Don't you agree? What? Do you want to see kids murdered? You don't hate little children, do you? I know you're a caring person and you would never want to see children die. Surely you don't have a problem with just a little sensible gun control, right? You're a good person, right?

It's a bit like using love to get a partner to go along with something they really do not want to do. "If you really loved me, you'd let me do it."

67 posted on 03/27/2018 6:20:26 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: reaganaut1

And there it is. We knew it was coming. But Oh they said we’re all just freaking out for nothing cause nobody is trying to take away our guns. Uh huh. We’re not idiots. We could see the writing on the wall.


68 posted on 03/27/2018 6:23:51 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: reaganaut1
Remember...Stevens was nominated by Gerald Ford - GOPe
69 posted on 03/27/2018 6:23:58 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: reaganaut1
"Rarely in my lifetime have I seen the type of civic engagement schoolchildren and their supporters demonstrated in Washington and other major cities throughout the country this past Saturday. These demonstrations demand our respect. They reveal the broad public support for legislation..."

Yeesh, when start off with a paragraph this wrong, you know it's going to be a doozy.

1. Rallies do not show evidence of public support.
2. The 2006 nationwide pro-illegal rallies were much more impressive.
3. Nothing about that rally demands any more "respect" from the Right than the Left gives to the annual March for Life anti-abortion rally in D.C.

70 posted on 03/27/2018 6:24:17 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: teeman8r

... good thing he has nothing to do with the US Constitution.

_____________________

He never did when, even he was on the bench.


71 posted on 03/27/2018 6:25:50 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“...let the kiddies run it? They’re so much wiser than us adults.”

~~~~~~

Little Johnnie wants to go drinking with his high school classmates. Mom & Dad say “NO!”. Little Johnnie tweets his classmates and a thousand of his friends show up at Mom & Dad’s door demanding Little Johnnie be allowed to drink with them.

So now it’s alright.

LOL.


72 posted on 03/27/2018 6:27:30 AM PDT by moovova
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To: sevlex

tru dat.


73 posted on 03/27/2018 6:27:35 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: reaganaut1

Another retarded ‘legal scholar’ who doesn’t understand the difference between the National Guard and a militia in the sense that the Founders meant.


74 posted on 03/27/2018 6:28:07 AM PDT by jarwulf
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To: reaganaut1
In 1939 the Supreme Court unanimously held that Congress could prohibit the possession of a sawed-off shotgun because that weapon had no reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a “well regulated militia.”

Except in 2018 the US military uses short barrel shotguns. So I doubt the Trump SC would agree. (As a matter of fact, thanks to Obama's BATF, in 2018 you can buy a short barrel not-a-shotgun, without additional NFA paperwork.)


75 posted on 03/27/2018 6:32:08 AM PDT by Sooth2222 (Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: reaganaut1

Typical Libtards Overreach.


76 posted on 03/27/2018 6:33:12 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: reaganaut1
Is it proper for a Supreme Court justice to be saying things like this when his job is to uphold the Constitution?

Should Justice Stevens now be recused (forcefully) from any case before the court that concerns guns or the 2A?

77 posted on 03/27/2018 6:33:49 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: MarvinStinson

These hypocrites don’t mind about the innocents who are murdered by those who would receive the death penalty. The criminal can use the death penalty, but the justice system can’t? What kind of evil world is that?


78 posted on 03/27/2018 6:34:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: jeffc
My bad! Boy, I'm behind the times!!!

=:-)

79 posted on 03/27/2018 6:35:51 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: yldstrk

The right to self defense is what they really want to eliminate.

It makes it easier to eliminate US.


80 posted on 03/27/2018 6:36:21 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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