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The odds that a gun will kill the average American may surprise you
Business Insider ^ | 25 Mar 2018 | Dave Mosher and Skye Gould

Posted on 03/25/2018 10:48:12 PM PDT by blueplum

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To: blueplum
Chart is complete bull chit as it does not address for race and geographic location.

Remove either young blacks or a few counties/inner city and the data for gun assault falls completely off the chart.

If you avoid black/Hispanic gang bangers and inner city/ county crap holes, you should probably watch the sky for an asteroid rather than worry about guns.

Jes sayin

41 posted on 03/26/2018 3:14:47 AM PDT by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: Equine1952

I cannot say that one of my guns has not been used to kill someone, since two of them were taken from Nazi officers by my Dad in 1945.


42 posted on 03/26/2018 3:15:41 AM PDT by fredhead (Duty, Honor, Country.....Honor, Courage, Commitment)
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To: Equine1952

I know what you mean, and it’s good advice for most people and situations to say not much more, if anything, than stating one’s 5th Amendment right intention. Interrogations can be risky for most. ;-) Saying “I’m the one who called you” can sometimes prevent the caller from being shot on sight, too. ;-)

A person might recommend that individuals get some advice on what to do from an attorney in their jurisdiction, advice from their insurance company on company policy and information from a local police acquaintance on local police policy. A nearby concealed carry instructor would advisable for most, even in constitutional carry states.


43 posted on 03/26/2018 3:23:09 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: blueplum

Of all firearms deaths only a small fraction are caused by rifles, and a smaller fraction by automatic rifles with ammunition size between a infantry weapon (M1) and a carbine, the definition of an assault rifle.


44 posted on 03/26/2018 3:29:45 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: 21twelve

Oh, you mentioned witnesses. Just in case you don’t know...

If you’re ever in that horrible situation, be sure to corroborate with any witnesses present (especially family) before police arrive. It’s not cheating, and it makes good sense. Police do it after self-defense situations.

Just to make sure that everyone can tell it the way they saw it. Prevents unintentional errors. Such situations can be overly exciting and cause witnesses to blurt out unintended statements sometimes.


45 posted on 03/26/2018 3:32:54 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: blueplum
“Any given school can expect to experience a student homicide about once every 6,000 years,” said Dewey Cornell, a University of Virginia professor who studies school safety.

Dewey G. Cornell, Ph. D. is a forensic clinical psychologist and Bunker Professor of Education in the Curry School of Education at the University of Virginia. Dr. Cornell is Director of the U.Va. Virginia Youth Violence Project and a faculty associate of the Institute of Law, Psychiatry, and Public Policy. His research and teaching is concerned with the prevention of youth violence and bullying, as well as the facilitation of healthy student development and achievement through a supportive and structured school climate.

46 posted on 03/26/2018 3:38:22 AM PDT by RC one (Lying, cheating, deceiving & manipulating are as natural to Democrats as swimming is to fish.)
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To: Equine1952

It sounds like your gun is as unmotivated as ours. Our gun stays wherever we put it and never moves even a tiny bit. We would be quite amazed, indeed, if it would suddenly decide to go shooting people.


47 posted on 03/26/2018 3:48:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: blueplum

Charts


48 posted on 03/26/2018 4:02:37 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society. And if the news does not fit)
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To: Reno89519

2/3 of gun deaths are suicides in the US.


49 posted on 03/26/2018 4:11:31 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: blueplum
Congress voted to lift a restriction on federal research into gun violence.

Fake news. There has never been a restriction on gun violence research. The restriction has been on CDC advocacy, on spending money and manpower on propaganda.

A major function of the CDC is to create advocacy that tells people to cover their mouth when they cough, to wash their hands, to sneeze into the inside of their elbow, to tell us what to do.

The CDC has not been restricted to research into the number killed or injured by guns, nor research into the nature of each incident. The CDC has been restricted from telling us what to do about guns and gun violence.

Note that during this period the CDC has been relatively quiet about the big 2 avoidable killers: Sepsis and Opioids.

Sepsis and Facility originated infections are the #1 avoidable cause of death, disease, and cost of medical care. We go to the hospital with a broken leg or cut from a knife and acquire infection in the hospital and die.

In Jan 2001 the JCAH published a study paid for by Johnson & Johnson that said removal of all pain should be the #1 priority of all medical providers from psychiatrists to surgeons to dentists. Treating and curing the condition that causes the pain was put on a lower priority than pain removal.

The HHS of Bush adopted the JCAH guidelines and encouraged doctors, hospitals, nursing homes, dentists, pediatricians, gynecologists, urologists, surgeons, everyone to reduce pain on threat of losing your medical license and losing payment from Medicare, Medicaid, VA.

The HHS of Obama escalated the encouragement to mandatory.

Corporatist Big Government created the #2 cause of avoidable injury and death. But the CDC bureuacrats, and HHS bureaucrats, and Congress refuse to state the origin of the problem. They refuse to state that Big Government created this problem.

50 posted on 03/26/2018 4:11:59 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Yo-Yo

The gun violence chart that shows 10 per includes suicides, of which is 2/3 of that #


51 posted on 03/26/2018 4:20:14 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: blueplum

If Chicago and Detroit were taken out of the equation, the odds would change to show even less of a chance to die by firearm.


52 posted on 03/26/2018 4:44:27 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: blueplum

Drowning is in the top chart; the risk of death by drowning is 1:1,133.

The bottom chart is a regression analysis that plots research funding vs frequency of the risk /cause of death. The solid line is shows the calculated average in funding based on frequency of a particular risk/cause. What the chart shows is that drowning and firearms death research is significantly underfunded compared to its frequency.

The article omits WHY it became necessary to restrict the CDC’s research in the mid-1990s. Researchers tend to have some personal interest/motivation in the topic being investigated and it was no different for gun violence research. They were the same crowd wanting to ask about gun ownership during physical exams because they want to classify gun ownership as a disease vector needing control.

Unfortunately for them, the more granular studies being published at the time of the ban showed a very low risk of gun death among whites and much higher rates among blacks and ethnic groups, especially young males. This, of course, makes arguing for universal gun confiscation very difficult for advocates to support with “impartial data” because of the obvious concentration of the problem in certain populations. Aside from the obvious 2nd Amendment issues, if gun ownership restrictions were implemented in those population groups, it would deprive the law-abiding members of these historically underserved communities of their principle means of defending themselves from violent criminals within their communities and racially-motivated thuggery from outside.

If and when this area of research resumes, it is going to be absolutely necessary that it be organized, conducted, reviewed, and reported in as non-partisan a manner as possible. This is going to require a lot of detailed and constant vigilance on the part of the pro-2nd Amendment community to keep the data being produced as close to ground truth as possible.

In addition, I hope the prohibition on partisan advocacy by researchers will be maintained. In my view, the prohibition would extend beyond active advocacy into any professional or personal association with any group taking a position on the issue. Such restrictions would also have to apply to the researcher’s activities if they subsequently leave the government.


53 posted on 03/26/2018 4:58:20 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: blueplum

“Average American” statistics are usually misleading. There are a handful of zip codes that are so different from the rest in gun murders that it skews the average. And a lot of zip codes (50%?) rarely have gun murders (1 every few years or less if I remember the 50% statistic right)

Those stats may lead students think think that “a single solution” is possible. The fact is that only 2 or 3 people out of 300 million each year do something like the school shooting they faced (about 1 in a hundred million). And Less than 100 people are killed each year like the 17 in that school (1 in 3 million yearly or about 1 in 37 thousand if they live to be 80). The “solution” for that is very different than the “solution” for the zip codes where most gun murders occur.

If the kids are serious about saving lives, they’d be looking into what solutions could work in south Chicago where the gun murder rate is much worse than the American average and gun laws aren’t doing much to help. Maybe they could set up shop and march there. And gun laws won’t reduce murders in the 50% of the zip codes that don’t have gun murders every year. (I think 50% of zip codes is right.)

The people leading the kids don’t want to save lives - especially black lives it seems. They want to help people feel like they are “doing something” - especially privileged whites who have a 1 in 37 thousand chance of being part of a mass shooting and are very unlikely to be shot in a non-mass shooting if they stay out of south Chicago and a few other zip codes.


54 posted on 03/26/2018 4:58:52 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: jonrick46

What is the source on this chart?


55 posted on 03/26/2018 5:02:22 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: blueplum

Yeah. No.

The libtards’’ own bible, the NYT, reported 40,200 traffic deaths in 2016, reflecting a number on the rise.

They too were citing the National Safety Council.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/business/highway-traffic-safety.html


56 posted on 03/26/2018 5:10:13 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: Equine1952

Bears repeating....

Probably about 99.99% of lawful carriers know this and practice it and the data shows it. Rarely does a lawful carrier do wrong.


57 posted on 03/26/2018 5:15:05 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: blueplum

Is there a statistic for “death by smart phone texting”?


58 posted on 03/26/2018 5:21:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; blueplum

Were any of the great cartoonists of the post WWII era still around, I would see a great toon at the movies from them poo-pooing the Dem - o -crap/Lib - Turd gun panniers.


59 posted on 03/26/2018 5:31:08 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: BuffaloJack
Is there a statistic for “death by smart phone texting”?

I've read that for teens it is currently 11 per day.

No driving or smartphones until 21 years of age.

60 posted on 03/26/2018 5:34:47 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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