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While Foreign Policy is the epitome of the establishment (they are wailing and leashing teeth over Bolton) this article is a gem.

None of the information, not one single byte of data used to discuss China is accurate, and probably not even in the ballpark. China is a closed society both due to Party policy and an environment that actively discourages honest data collection. My gut tells me that General Secretary Xi is playing a much weaker economic and military hand than he realizes.

1 posted on 03/22/2018 10:52:54 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect
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Confident societies are not afraid of freedom.

Confident societies are not afraid of God and Christians.


2 posted on 03/22/2018 10:58:55 PM PDT by GoldenState_Rose
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The Party elite and top government officials get uncensored and candid reports average Chinese are not allowed to see.

They have a good idea of the true state of the country and so far there’s no reason for them to change.

The Soviet elite where forced to change because things were so bad change was both necessary and inevitable. Things in China are not yet at a state where democracy is a consideration.

As long as things are well in hand, the status quo will continue. And people seldom change unless its in their interest and even then change is frightening to them.

That’s the only thing every one knows for certain about China - including the Chinese government.


3 posted on 03/22/2018 11:17:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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China is a developing developed country.

Confronting China has never been a bright idea.


4 posted on 03/22/2018 11:19:49 PM PDT by granada
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6 posted on 03/22/2018 11:46:36 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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China is actively targeting ex-patriot American pilots and aircrews; reacting to Trump, I expect. My son has left.


8 posted on 03/23/2018 12:04:03 AM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my airline pilot son!)
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Qx says you are quite accurate ... and some in government know it.

Even Mao said he'd only managed to change things around Beijing to some degree for a while.

The culture is incredible. And the cultural inertia--even after the cultural revolution--is also incredible.

The smug arrogance about being the middle/central Kingdom ... with the paragon specimens of the human critter is probably at least 3 standard deviations from the mean. The Japanese are similar in that regard.

9 posted on 03/23/2018 12:23:13 AM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.zazzle.com/brain_truth for hats T's e.g. STAY CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING)
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This is one of the most ridiculous stories I’ve read in a long time. In many ways, I think China is a lot less strict than Korea in terms of controlling its citizens. That being said, I feel a lot more comfortable in Korea because I know people will behave even when the government isn’t looking and the vast majority are law-abiding and honest (Korea, like Japan, has almost no crime as compared to the U.S., and you will get comments in both countries about how America is dangerous and violent). In China, in a lot of ways it is totally chaotic in terms of social behavior from being chaos on the roads to chaos in terms of crowd behavior to there being a fairly high risk of dishonest behavior (especially getting cheated or being a victim of some scam).

And millions of Mainland Chinese travel as tourists throughout Asia, although that travel has been cut back recently due to increased tensions over things like THAAD. Chinese citizens are well aware of what is going on in the rest of the world. Sure they view everything from a slanted “Our China” perspective. But we do the exact same thing in the U.S., viewing Asia from our perspective which is often wildly inaccurate.


20 posted on 03/23/2018 1:29:31 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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The Chinese economy is based on debt and cheap labor. They use the cheap labor to export consumer goods that the west, and especially the US, buys.

If the US market is closed to their goods they will not be able to pay their debt. Disaster awaits.

23 posted on 03/23/2018 2:18:57 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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China isn’t the only country whose official government statistics can’t be trusted.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts


30 posted on 03/23/2018 4:40:26 AM PDT by jdege
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we do know there is a large population segment that is young and upwardly mobile and urban and tuned to the digital life. These youth are not fans of the old communist ways.

Xi must tread carefully to govern such an educated and ambitious segment. They are the future. They are the Chicaps.


31 posted on 03/23/2018 4:51:59 AM PDT by Thibodeaux (Long Live the Republic!)
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34 posted on 03/23/2018 5:48:17 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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Anyone who has spent time there knows this. The only thing I trusted were my own eyes and individuals that earned my trust. One misstep and the person was off the list. The adage take care of your people and they’ll take care of you served very well. There were many times my reports would come to me and say ‘look here’s the situation, but I can’t say that in the meetings’. If I couldn’t do anything about it then I said got it keep me informed of the real story and try not to say anything. If I could do something then I would ask questions that eventually got me to the hard ones and opened it up. Big key was not to embarrass Anyone.


43 posted on 03/23/2018 8:12:30 AM PDT by reed13k
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